Fantasy GoH: OOC Lounge

[HighSanguinaryPriest]

mkay. let me make this last post

 

[Swire]

@Ami the Breadling SP3CT3R HighSanguinaryPriest @Anyone Online @aja maji Gabe Black Jade Jin @Cheryl Alteras Swire Captain Gabriel @Cosmo @Cheryl FireMaiden YungJazz Proletariat Swire Captain Spooks

I'm afraid I am starting Chapter 2, now. The RP is stalling and I don't want it to die.

Ok, I will wait for you to post before I do. I don't want to screw you up.

 

[Birdsie]

mkay. let me make this last post

Not sure if I can respond to that, as I'm already writing the start of Chapter 2. I suppose it makes for an outro, since we're on Page 5 already XD.

 

[HighSanguinaryPriest]

okay I'm good to go. Also, Quest Added: Scour Ice Creek Grotto.

 

[Black Jade]

Hw long was this timeskip?

 

[Captain Gabriel]

Hw long was this timeskip?

1 week

 

[Susanoo]

Hiya.
What's up ^^

Just stopping by.

 

[Black Jade]

So, all the ppl from Ubbin Falls are currently where?

 

[Captain Gabriel]

So, all the ppl from Ubbin Falls are currently where?

Read the posts in the IC Section.

Doesn't take long.

 

[Birdsie]

Venge F. Rigidum
Location - Fort Black - War Room

"Huh, well I suppose It's a good thing I came here with more than one thing to do. Otherwise that speech would have been a waste of time." Vena whispered to herself only loud enough for Viral to hear her. Viral was standing beside her and wasn't cloaked. Only to give the appearance that Vena was with someone else and not alone. Vena was standing at the back behind everyone. When Mephisto finished his small speech, her and Viral walked passed Mephisto heading to the Library door. As they passed, Viral told Vena "Sir, We were able to rip off the spells and sell the remaining artifacts from the festival. We were able to contain the enchantments within a spell tome and within a few days should be able to create a spell that can replicate their effects."
Vena immediately turned to Viral with a annoyed face. By the time Viral saw Vena's face she realized why that was a bad time. Vena hadn't even talked to Mephisto yet, or anyone for that matter. She didn't partially want to have to waste time explaining who she was, had anyone heard that or noticed her, they might wonder who she was. Vena and Viral continued to walk toward the door.

Birdsie

I'm not sure if that's possible. The library has numerous defensive mechanisms from people abusing its knowledge.

• Animated Armor Knights that come to life if a threat approaches.
• Magical Brass doors that lock themselves with magic if anyone inside dares do anything destructive, then slowly deprive them of oxygen.
• Books that teleport and re-arrange themselves.

Only a Guildmaster can turn said defenses off.

Besides, the Library itself doesn't have any powerful books, or anything of that sort (although it has like... ALL of them.) If we're talking about spells, it only has the rudimentary basics of magecraft that you can find in any above-average magic shop. If you want the GOOD stuff, you'd have to breach the Vault which has defenses that are the "even Gods won't penetrate this," kind of defense. The Vault of the Guild has the type of magical weapons, books, artifacts and items that put Gods to shame.

 

[Birdsie]

So, all the ppl from Ubbin Falls are currently where?

Probs at Fort Black.

 

[Swire]

I'm not sure if that's possible. The library has numerous defensive mechanisms from people abusing its knowledge.

• Animated Armor Knights that come to life if a threat approaches.
• Magical Brass doors that lock themselves with magic if anyone inside dares do anything destructive, then slowly deprive them of oxygen.
• Books that teleport and re-arrange themselves.

Only a Guildmaster can turn said defenses off.

Besides, the Library itself doesn't have any powerful books, or anything of that sort (although it has like... ALL of them.) If we're talking about spells, it only has the rudimentary basics of magecraft that you can find in any above-average magic shop. If you want the GOOD stuff, you'd have to breach the Vault which has defenses that are the "even Gods won't penetrate this," kind of defense. The Vault of the Guild has the type of magical weapons, books, artifacts and items that put Gods to shame.

Oh Sorry I said that the artifacts that I ripped the magic from were the artifacts I stole during the festival. I haven't touched the Library yet. And I didn't intend to, I see the library as more of a history than spell. Sorry I didn't make that clear enough.

 

[Birdsie]

Oh Sorry I said that the artifacts that I ripped the magic from were the artifacts I stole during the festival. I haven't touched the Library yet. And I didn't intend to, I see the library as more of a history than spell. Sorry I didn't make that clear enough.

Oh, my bad X_X

 

[Captain Gabriel]

GUYS
I HAVE AN IDEA
Would you all be up for...
A comic-relief-orientated chapter?

 

[Black Jade]

Finally got the reply up, now I wait :p

 

[Black Jade]

Vetr "Northwind" Snorrison
Location: Fort Black - Forge/Personal Quarters.

After the Meeting in the War Room, Vetr had immediately made his way to his room/workshop. On his workbench was an array of plans and materials, full of complex metallurgical formulas and designs for both weapons and armour. On his bed, he had begun to pack his supplies for the quest he had decided to undertake. Potions, Bandages, food, and other basic necessities were packed into the rucksack. Silence reigned supreme in the forge, the only sounds being the crackling fires of the furnace, and the sound of his armour being donned with practiced ease.
With the last piece secured, Vetr grabbed his blade and secured the scabbard over his right shoulder. Satisfied, the Frost made his way towards the main gate, and on is way to the Ice Creek Grotto.

Birdsie @Any one who wants to come

That would be for only guild members?

 

[HighSanguinaryPriest]

He said whom ever he chose to accompany him or volunteered

 

[Birdsie]

@Ami the Breadling SP3CT3R HighSanguinaryPriest Gabe Black Jade Alteras Swire Captain Gabriel Cosmo FireMaiden YungJazz Proletariat Captain Spooks
Sorry for this being all of the sudden people, but I have an announcement to make.

I did some calculations and considering the pre-established currency system we used, nothing added up, well, it did for the most part, but the system we used previously was kinda... well, how to put this. Confusing and weird. The payment in money for everything would have been really... how to put it, imprecise.

I've been trying to avoid changing, but I did extend the currency system, so I just wanna inform everyone that it changed. See here for yourself.
I made the system of currency easy to translate to USD, a Copper Aquila is worth roughly 1 dollar, a Silver Legate is worth 10 dollars, a Gold Denar is worth 100 dollars, an Imperial Eagle is worth 500 dollars, and I've added two new denars to substitute for high-value sums of money, these being: Crimson Tricoins (1500 CA, aka 1500 dollars) and Holy Imperial Coins (15000 CA each.)

Due to these changes, the Guild members now learn 6 Gold Denars per month, which is like a joke for a low-wage job, as it translates to roughly 600 dollars a month if we were to compare them to United States currency. (The guild provides food, living conditions, and all that stuff though, so its not that bad I suppose.)

We also have an equivalent of cents now, which will be called Brass Coins.

To sum it up:

• Currency system changed.
• Guild members earn 6 Gold Denars/month, which translates to around 600USD per month, which translates to 20 healing potions worth of money.
• That's actually it.
• This update wasn't nearly as useful as I thought it would be.

 

[Birdsie]

Also, while I am at it. YungJazz will not be capable of posting for the next month as he won't be anywhere near a computer that he can write posts with.

He asked that we explain his character's dissapearance with:

Shun was called back to report to his boss, but was held back for mafia reasons. To update the status of the gud with the criminal underworld and to see what the Don wants him to do.

 

[Cosmo]

Sorry for this being all of the sudden people, but I have an announcement to make.

I did some calculations and considering the pre-established currency system we used, nothing added up, well, it did for the most part, but the system we used previously was kinda... well, how to put this. Confusing and weird. The payment in money for everything would have been really... how to put it, imprecise.

I've been trying to avoid changing, but I did extend the currency system, so I just wanna inform everyone that it changed. See here for yourself.
I made the system of currency easy to translate to USD, a Copper Aquila is worth roughly 1 dollar, a Silver Legate is worth 10 dollars, a Gold Denar is worth 100 dollars, an Imperial Eagle is worth 500 dollars, and I've added two new denars to substitute for high-value sums of money, these being: Crimson Tricoins (1500 CA, aka 1500 dollars) and Holy Imperial Coins (15000 CA each.)

Due to these changes, the Guild members now learn 6 Gold Denars per month, which is like a joke for a low-wage job, as it translates to roughly 600 dollars a month if we were to compare them to United States currency. (The guild provides food, living conditions, and all that stuff though, so its not that bad I suppose.)

We also have an equivalent of cents now, which will be called Brass Coins.

To sum it up:

• Currency system changed.
• Guild members earn 6 Gold Denars/month, which translates to around 600USD per month, which translates to 20 healing potions worth of money.
• That's actually it.
• This update wasn't nearly as useful as I thought it would be.

Not quite right. Inflation is a thing. Consider how in the fifties where the majority of what cost a dollar or two now cost ten cents then. Now we need to consider this system uses the gold standard. The USA doesn't use the gold standard any longer (your one dollar does not represent a dollar in gold).

Now, this is not a direct conversion. 1 dollar would not be 1 Aquila no more then 1 dollar is 1 English pound.

A Aquila would be closer to 5 dollars considering you can buy a mug of ale with it.

Having an American penny equal in bronze is a bad idea. The American penny is a bad idea on its own due to the metal it is made out of being worth more then the penny (US loses money for each penny it makes) more over carrying hundreds of coins is heavy. Incredibly heavy.

In a direct conversion, a denar would be worth roughly 175 dollars due, to again, gold standard vs non gold standard. This is assuming the coin is a small 4 grams.

Now remember, inflation due to not being on the gold standard. It would be more akin to having 175 dollars per dense where rent is probably 100-200 dollars. That is quite a lot.

But in essence, can't compare exchange rates of a non gold standard nation to a gold standard nation and give them equal exchange rates.

 

[Proletariat]

Currency is even more difficult than inflation. Let's assume this is early or middle industrial revolution, consider the difference in GDP levels of the United States (even with inflation adjustment) between now and the middle 1800's. Even if you adjusted for inflation so that the amount you have in 1800's currency is 600 modern USD. Currency worth 600 modern USD could buy you so much more in 1800 due to less overall wealth in the system and a lower demand for most goods.

 

[Birdsie]

Not quite right. Inflation is a thing. Consider how in the fifties where the majority of what cost a dollar or two now cost ten cents then. Now we need to consider this system uses the gold standard. The USA doesn't use the gold standard any longer (your one dollar does not represent a dollar in gold).

Now, this is not a direct conversion. 1 dollar would not be 1 Aquila no more then 1 dollar is 1 English pound.

A Aquila would be closer to 5 dollars considering you can buy a mug of ale with it.

Having an American penny equal in bronze is a bad idea. The American penny is a bad idea on its own due to the metal it is made out of being worth more then the penny (US loses money for each penny it makes) more over carrying hundreds of coins is heavy. Incredibly heavy.

In a direct conversion, a denar would be worth roughly 175 dollars due, to again, gold standard vs non gold standard. This is assuming the coin is a small 4 grams.

Now remember, inflation due to not being on the gold standard. It would be more akin to having 175 dollars per dense where rent is probably 100-200 dollars. That is quite a lot.

But in essence, can't compare exchange rates of a non gold standard nation to a gold standard nation and give them equal exchange rates.

Currency is even more difficult than inflation. Let's assume this is early or middle industrial revolution, consider the difference in GDP levels of the United States (even with inflation adjustment) between now and the middle 1800's. Even if you adjusted for inflation so that the amount you have in 1800's currency is 600 modern USD. Currency worth 600 modern USD could buy you so much more in 1800 due to less overall wealth in the system and a lower demand for most goods.

I was not trying to get scientific, rather create a system of currency that can be fundamentally understood.

If you object to that, we can change it back.

 

[Cosmo]

I was not trying to get scientific, rather create a system of currency that can be fundamentally understood.

If you object to that, we can change it back.

More objecting to the reason used.

Trying to relate it to an entirely different form of money that didn't exist at the time. So, for instance, 6 denar = 600 dollars. (For reference, Roman legionnaires were usually paid between 200-300 Denarius which were small silver coins a year, so in this world, their soldiers were paid 18.75 - 25 legates a month). Gotta take that into account. I don't mind changing the price for anyone or anything, making one coin more or less just trying to make a coin, gold backed standard, matched to current modern day USD is.. odd.

I do stand by pennies being an awful idea though. Even now, with our advanced metallurgy and ability to mass produce, pennies cost us more to make then they are worth and... would just be silly to try and carry around 40+ coins in your purse wherever you went. (6-7 quarters, alone, feel heavy and cumbersome in your pocket, much less 30 nickles) when said coins are near worthless. Especially in a world where the currency is coin based.


Fun video on pennies.

Currency is even more difficult than inflation. Let's assume this is early or middle industrial revolution, consider the difference in GDP levels of the United States (even with inflation adjustment) between now and the middle 1800's. Even if you adjusted for inflation so that the amount you have in 1800's currency is 600 modern USD. Currency worth 600 modern USD could buy you so much more in 1800 due to less overall wealth in the system and a lower demand for most goods.

Which is even more true for this kind of time frame. The ability to produce tons of goods simply isn't around to encourage a fast growth of demand.

 

[Birdsie]

More objecting to the reason used.

Trying to relate it to an entirely different form of money that didn't exist at the time. So, for instance, 6 denar = 600 dollars. (For reference, Roman legionnaires were usually paid between 200-300 Denarius which were small silver coins a year, so in this world, their soldiers were paid 18.75 - 25 legates a month). Gotta take that into account. I don't mind changing the price for anyone or anything, making one coin more or less just trying to make a coin, gold backed standard, matched to current modern day USD is.. odd.

I do stand by pennies being an awful idea though. Even now, with our advanced metallurgy and ability to mass produce, pennies cost us more to make then they are worth and... would just be silly to try and carry around 40+ coins in your purse wherever you went. (6-7 quarters, alone, feel heavy and cumbersome in your pocket, much less 30 nickles) when said coins are near worthless. Especially in a world where the currency is coin based.


Fun video on pennies.



Which is even more true for this kind of time frame. The ability to produce tons of goods simply isn't around to encourage a fast growth of demand.

Fair enough, I suppose it is my bad.

I didn't take all of this into consideration, so I suppose I'll change it back to the old one.

 

[Birdsie]

More objecting to the reason used.

Trying to relate it to an entirely different form of money that didn't exist at the time. So, for instance, 6 denar = 600 dollars. (For reference, Roman legionnaires were usually paid between 200-300 Denarius which were small silver coins a year, so in this world, their soldiers were paid 18.75 - 25 legates a month). Gotta take that into account. I don't mind changing the price for anyone or anything, making one coin more or less just trying to make a coin, gold backed standard, matched to current modern day USD is.. odd.

I do stand by pennies being an awful idea though. Even now, with our advanced metallurgy and ability to mass produce, pennies cost us more to make then they are worth and... would just be silly to try and carry around 40+ coins in your purse wherever you went. (6-7 quarters, alone, feel heavy and cumbersome in your pocket, much less 30 nickles) when said coins are near worthless. Especially in a world where the currency is coin based.


Fun video on pennies.



Which is even more true for this kind of time frame. The ability to produce tons of goods simply isn't around to encourage a fast growth of demand.

I understand that now. I changed back to the old system.