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Agreed! Makes sense to imagine a younger, adolescent Levathiel fighting in that war and perhaps being old enough to remember the deaths of the King and Queen - it could definitely add layers to the kind of relationship we've cooked up between him and max (and theoretically the other sibs - except perhaps NyanNyanYummy NyanNyanYummy , her gal's a half-demon rip)

And it definitely means he would NOT have the best outlook with Yukio's royalty and anyone associated šŸ‘šŸ‘ weatheringwings weatheringwings
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Iā€™m now wondering what Raninā€™s relationship with Levathiel would be like. Since I want Ranin to be kind of unnerving in mannerisms, if not characters, Iā€™d say Ranin would respect and follow the captainā€™s orders while the captain just sometimes wonders about him. Maybe he suspects him of being a plant, maybe he was part of the whole plot to train a random kid who might be a royal bastard into becoming the perfect guard, Iā€™d love to develop this idea more.
 
Iā€™m now wondering what Raninā€™s relationship with Levathiel would be like. Since I want Ranin to be kind of unnerving in mannerisms, if not characters, Iā€™d say Ranin would respect and follow the captainā€™s orders while the captain just sometimes wonders about him. Maybe he suspects him of being a plant, maybe he was part of the whole plot to train a random kid who might be a royal bastard into becoming the perfect guard, Iā€™d love to develop this idea more.
Reading Ranin's CS again, I'd say it makes good sense that Levathiel had a hand in whatever plot brought him to the palace in the beginning! Especially when it comes to the parallels of their outlooks - you mention a few times how Ranin's 'duty was drilled into him', which aligns a lot with what Lev's leadership style is like. His way or the highway, really lmfao.
Following orders is a good way to stay on the commander's good side, so I think the respect would be mutual - I don't think though that Lev would pick up on Ranin's feeling of being trapped into his role. Duty goes first, and all that jazz. It's up to Ranin to decide if he likes the commander, but there wouldn't be any surprise if he did not, since Lev would be partially responsible for the boy's current bandaged position, especially if we say he insisted on that in the first place



Maybe he suspects him of being a plant
Haha love this, Levathiel would definitely not shy away from thinking this, but since he is such a stickler for decorum and class, he would not say such things out loud. Would probably think the boy as "quiet, definitely illiterate, not of his own mind, but a good worker/soldier."
 
Reading Ranin's CS again, I'd say it makes good sense that Levathiel had a hand in whatever plot brought him to the palace in the beginning! Especially when it comes to the parallels of their outlooks - you mention a few times how Ranin's 'duty was drilled into him', which aligns a lot with what Lev's leadership style is like. His way or the highway, really lmfao.
Following orders is a good way to stay on the commander's good side, so I think the respect would be mutual - I don't think though that Lev would pick up on Ranin's feeling of being trapped into his role. Duty goes first, and all that jazz. It's up to Ranin to decide if he likes the commander, but there wouldn't be any surprise if he did not, since Lev would be partially responsible for the boy's current bandaged position, especially if we say he insisted on that in the first place



Haha love this, Levathiel would definitely not shy away from thinking this, but since he is such a stickler for decorum and class, he would not say such things out loud. Would probably think the boy as "quiet, definitely illiterate, not of his own mind, but a good worker/soldier."
Now I'm looking forward to their first meeting. I also think I should work on expanding Ranin's character a bit, and make it a little more clear he's not rigid by nature but by nurture.
 
So what's the actual deal with the changes for the royalty in Argena? I'm curious since I think it's gonna effect my characters planned backstory quite a bit haha. Did you guys discuss a timeline for the events? I'm guessing the war had to be fairly recent, or at the very least within the range of the youngest princess. My character was gonna be the result of a marriage to end a war, but I was gonna do a much smaller scale war with a band of demon tribes.
 
Did you guys discuss a timeline for the events? I'm guessing the war had to be fairly recent, or at the very least within the range of the youngest princess. My character was gonna be the result of a marriage to end a war, but I was gonna do a much smaller scale war with a band of demon tribes.
Great question - I'd say about 20 years ago could be the date when the war started - maybe it kickstarted thanks to the death (assassination?) of the Argena King & Queen and lasts for a couple years (three, four?) until Argena managed to drive Yukio forces back and win (though maybe Yukio managed to secure some parcel of land, so it wasn't a total loss
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(so that'd mean for example, that Ser Levathiel would be sixteen at the beginning, and nineteen/twenty at the end of the war)

So theoretically yeah, most characters in the roster would have either been just born or very, very young when the big clash between Yukio and Argena happened. In regards to your smaller scale demon tribe war, it could definitely still happen - just not at the same time as the larger kingdom war before it. Maybe its thanks to your character's birth that this second smaller scale war didnt turn out to be a repetition of history?

EDIT: my brain is dead lmfao, math don't work. Your character is 27 years old, woops - so that means forget what I said up there - what if these demon tribe small scale wars could work as the precursors to the big thing? Like the writing on the wall before the big fire Sign Sign << What do ya think
 
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I was planning on making my Argena princess roughly 17-18 years old
 
The war could have happened right after she was born, so that would be 17-18 years ago
 
Stitches and Patchwork Stitches and Patchwork Your character is a shifter, too. Do you think my character Hashim would be able to 'smell' or just sort of know that she was different?
Ooh maybe! She is not a shifter herself, just a few draconic traits due to her father having been a dragon shifter! Either way that could be quite interesting especially with her being very intent on ensuring she is seen by the royal court as just a regular human to retain her positon as court jester
 
weatheringwings weatheringwings , I believe we have talked about this before, but the king and queen of Yukio do not love each other, correct? If so, could the mother of my character have a good relationship with the former queen?
 
Great question - I'd say about 20 years ago could be the date when the war started - maybe it kickstarted thanks to the death (assassination?) of the Argena King & Queen and lasts for a couple years (three, four?) until Argena managed to drive Yukio forces back and win (though maybe Yukio managed to secure some parcel of land, so it wasn't a total loss
Sign Sign ^^ What do ya think

(so that'd mean for example, that Ser Levathiel would be sixteen at the beginning, and nineteen/twenty at the end of the war)

So theoretically yeah, most characters in the roster would have either been just born or very, very young when the big clash between Yukio and Argena happened. In regards to your smaller scale demon tribe war, it could definitely still happen - just not at the same time as the larger kingdom war before it. Maybe its thanks to your character's birth that this second smaller scale war didnt turn out to be a repetition of history?

EDIT: my brain is dead lmfao, math don't work. Your character is 27 years old, woops - so that means forget what I said up there - what if these demon tribe small scale wars could work as the precursors to the big thing? Like the writing on the wall before the big fire Sign Sign << What do ya think
Yes that works. The great seperation happened years ago, so it's more than possible to have war along the way and thus leading to situations like this. I'll put up a separate lore thread for each kingdom as I mentioned before and add on all of the things that are needed to add based on everyone's input.
 
Hey! Sorry for such a late post. I've been on bed rest with antibiotics (thankfully no covid, but still ill) so I haven't gotten the chance to really touch my characters yet. More than likely I'll try to finish by either tonight or tomorrow.

Lumina, as stated by the other fellow roleplayers, would be the poorest out of the three kingdom. Although this is true, the royalty wield magic ( which the other humans cannot wield), which keeps up to the other kingdoms. This us why their kingdom is still very much alive and can still catch up to the other two kingdoms. Their people and royalty are also intelligent than the others, and if they had the opportunity to gain more access to wealth, they would probably have a more advanced technology. Unfortunately, they rely on their agriculture and engineering skills that keeps the income flowing to the kingdom.

I will be putting out the kingdom lores in a separate thread, and if anyone( such as Weatheringwings and supermartinbros) have any ideas for the other two kingdoms or Lumina, definitely do put it here! I didn't want to be too strict on the lore so that you all could be creative in freely making your characters, but we can slowly input it in based on everyone's characters.

Kingdom lores will and can be slowly developed since essentially we are more focused on trying to "rebuild" the relationship with each others' Kingdoms. Hopefully after that we can more on to another arc, possibly a villain arc or something after if it stays alive!
Okay I see ! My chara plan are getting clearer. I was thinking of making a chara determined to develop Lumina and bring it up to speed with the others. I think I will make a princess ! (Is there other Lumina royals ?) I had this idea that since Lumina main problem is it poverty my chara could be focused on gaining money. And profiting of the ball to strike commercial deal with noble or seek a very wealthy husband that could help her kingdom.

Beside agriculture and technology, what natural resources do Lumina have ? I kind of have this idea that my chara is highly skilled in domain management and commerce because as soon as she could she did research on how to improve Lumina. So I imagine that maybe she found other way to make moneys but her parent don't want to risk it, so she is bent on getting patronage elsewhere. Like she found a mine, or is sure that a certain plant could make kickass healing potion and sell like crazy, that kind of thing.

Mentally, I'm playing with the idea that she was deeply affected all her life by her kingdom reputation as the poorest. Hating how infamous they were among noble circle for barely being able to keep their standing and how most of her subject live well below what they deserve.

Everyone that play a Lumina character can you tell me a little about them ? Especially if they are a Royal
 
Not gonna lie, I'm kind of looking forward to playing as Tajun a lot after writing him out. He's a simple yet complex character. He doesn't steal things out of greed or thrill-seeking but because of compulsion, and he's come to terms with that in the sense of 'the world wants us to have what it offers, even if we have to take it.' Gives him this oddly charming personality that makes him kind of engaging as a character. Also, him seducing women? This amounts to an abstract concept of what 'love' is. He views it as stealing their love but he doesn't honestly understand what that means. So it's all a game to him, in the end, with no way for him to understand the ramifications.

Somehow, I feel like he's now the perfect antagonist to stir up trouble. Just some random bandit who went "Oh, neat wedding dress, looked better on me, so did this crown, and this shoelace, and this magic book, this throne too, thanks for your treasures, bye, they'll go to good homes!"
 
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Btw, I'm sorry but I'm on phone most of the time and your CS isn't mobile friendly if you have the time could you put the Prince of Lumina info down so those on mobile like me can see it more easily ? Also his name is Ryota ? I like his CS ! This name sound Japanese inspired ? (ā—•ā€æā—•) Is he related to Yukio ? So far I got the feeling that
Argena = fantasy europe
Yukio = fantasy Japan/China
Lumina = fantasy ??? (None yet I think)

I be up for Lumina having some more Japan inspired feel after separating from Argena. Maybe Lumina got closer to Yukio after the great war ? What is the great war about btw ?
 
Not gonna lie, I'm kind of looking forward to playing as Tajun a lot after writing him out. He's a simple yet complex character. He doesn't steal things out of greed or thrill-seeking but because of compulsion, and he's come to terms with that in the sense of 'the world wants us to have what it offers, even if we have to take it.' Gives him this oddly charming personality that makes him kind of engaging as a character. Also, him seducing women? This amounts to an abstract concept of what 'love' is. He views it as stealing their love but he doesn't honestly understand what that means. So it's all a game to him, in the end, with no way for him to understand the ramifications.

Somehow, I feel like he's now the perfect antagonist to stir up trouble. Just some random bandit who went "Oh, neat wedding dress, looked better on me, so did this crown, and this shoelace, and this magic book, this throne too, thanks for your treasures, bye, they'll go to good homes!"
I am so excited to see him as well! Also now Iā€™m just dying at the thought of him and Ophelia meeting and it either leading to the most chaotic partnership or chaotic rivalry with both of them here to steal, albeit Ophelia is trying to be more discrete
 
Okay I see ! My chara plan are getting clearer. I was thinking of making a chara determined to develop Lumina and bring it up to speed with the others. I think I will make a princess ! (Is there other Lumina royals ?) I had this idea that since Lumina main problem is it poverty my chara could be focused on gaining money. And profiting of the ball to strike commercial deal with noble or seek a very wealthy husband that could help her kingdom.

Beside agriculture and technology, what natural resources do Lumina have ? I kind of have this idea that my chara is highly skilled in domain management and commerce because as soon as she could she did research on how to improve Lumina. So I imagine that maybe she found other way to make moneys but her parent don't want to risk it, so she is bent on getting patronage elsewhere. Like she found a mine, or is sure that a certain plant could make kickass healing potion and sell like crazy, that kind of thing.

Mentally, I'm playing with the idea that she was deeply affected all her life by her kingdom reputation as the poorest. Hating how infamous they were among noble circle for barely being able to keep their standing and how most of her subject live well below what they deserve.

Everyone that play a Lumina character can you tell me a little about them ? Especially if they are a Royal

There's another Princess besides my Prince character, but it's possible to make another Princess if you'd like!

Lumina's resources are only agriculture and technology. So things such as maybe a healing potion would work. Finding a Mine isn't something that is usual for Lumina, since they're more of a "flat land" (think of like flatter areas) than more mountain-like, which is why they seem to rely more on their agriculture work, technology, and maybe she can even find a mine in some mountain areas near Yukio or Argena (which is kind of dangerous for others to go to since the commoners and royals think it's dangerous to go there in case they get captured or something).

I'm still updating my characters, but I'll be sure to give you an update on their information! I'm working on it right now.
 
Also, him seducing women? This amounts to an abstract concept of what 'love' is. He views it as stealing their love but he doesn't honestly understand what that means. So it's all a game to him, in the end, with no way for him to understand the ramifications.
Contending with crazy/jilted ex-lovers, a non-monogamous reputation closing off access to partners that favor a monogamous relationship, weird growths/rashes in the nether regions ... to name a few ramifications, heh.

I feel like Tajun and Hashim would make an interesting adventuring duo. Kind of reminds me of the Lawful Good Paladin paired with Chaotic Neutral Rogue dynamic.
 
There's another Princess besides my Prince character, but it's possible to make another Princess if you'd like!

Lumina's resources are only agriculture and technology. So things such as maybe a healing potion would work. Finding a Mine isn't something that is usual for Lumina, since they're more of a "flat land" (think of like flatter areas) than more mountain-like, which is why they seem to rely more on their agriculture work, technology, and maybe she can even find a mine in some mountain areas near Yukio or Argena (which is kind of dangerous for others to go to since the commoners and royals think it's dangerous to go there in case they get captured or something).

I'm still updating my characters, but I'll be sure to give you an update on their information! I'm working on it right now.
Oh is the princess another player ? I know you are the Prince and his Butler. That be nice if we could accord our background somewhat ! Also what's the reason for Lumina poverty ? Is it something we have to worldbuild or already set ?
 
Oh is the princess another player ? I know you are the Prince and his Butler. That be nice if we could accord our background somewhat ! Also what's the reason for Lumina poverty ? Is it something we have to worldbuild or already set ?

Yes, there's another person, but their character is still a work in progress. Their reason for the poverty is still something we have to worldbuild, so it isn't set it. Although this kingdom is the poorest, it's more directed toward the people than the Kingdom. The Kingdom (Palace) can hold on its own (barely, at times), but then the people suffer the most and it's to the point where they need to reunite with the other kingdoms, hence is probably the reason why they are attending this event. We can still worldbuild on this though.
 
Sign Sign After giving it some thought I think I'm going to drop from the story. Good luck with the rp everyone ^^
 
Yes, there's another person, but their character is still a work in progress. Their reason for the poverty is still something we have to worldbuild, so it isn't set it. Although this kingdom is the poorest, it's more directed toward the people than the Kingdom. The Kingdom (Palace) can hold on its own (barely, at times), but then the people suffer the most and it's to the point where they need to reunite with the other kingdoms, hence is probably the reason why they are attending this event. We can still worldbuild on this though.
Oh okay that sound bad. Was Lumina originally a part of Argena or where they always independent ? What about them being affected the hardest by the great war between Yukio and Argena ? Or maybe years and years of devastating drought and bad ruler ? What do you think ?
 
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Oh okay that sound bad. Was Lumina originally a part of Argena or where they always independent ? What about them being affected the hardest by the great war between Yukio and Argena ? Or maybe years and years of devastating drought and bad ruler ? What do you think ?
It was always mentioned that Lumina was part of the old traditional Argena, and they're still kind of living in that tradition (hence, maybe their development is slower than the others). Yes! They can be greatly affected by the great war more than the two, so it would make sense. I just finished most of the information for both of my characters, so if you still need to see any of the two, let me know! (the history of the Prince is very vague, still but I'll get to it. I just wrote the gist of his history XD).
 
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It was always mentioned that Lumina was part of the old traditional Argena, and they're still kind of living in that tradition (hence, maybe their development is slower than the others). Yes! They can be greatly affected by the great war more than the two, so it would make sense. I just finished most of the information for both of my characters, so if you still need to see any of the two, let me know! (the history of the Prince is very vague, still but I'll get to it. I just wrote the gist of his history XD).
That be great ! Wanna talk about it in private messages ?
 

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