Roleplay Pet Peeves

[M.J. Saulnier]

anybody could be pure of heart. it just happens to be annoying when a player tries too hard to play a goodie two shoes character due to how forced and controlled it can sometimes feel.

One could say the very same thing about demons, vampires, or people's style of writing in general; everything they do.

 

[Umbrie]

One could say the very same thing about demons, vampires, or people's style of writing in general; everything they do.

Truesies. it can feel very forced and controlled, i am Very Picky about what particular demons or vampires i roleplay with. because the 10,000 year old vampire is generally played by a poor roleplayer who does nothing but godmod and flaunt their characters overpowered power level because they couldn't roleplay and interact as a character of a more reasonable power level for the setting.

 

[Elephantom]

Dice RPs are normally CO-OP rather than PVP. Typically against obstacles set up by the GM. an Obstacle that was designed for the farmer would be a boring chore for Zeus, and an Obstacle designed for Zeus would be impossible for the Farmer to contribute anything towards the accomplishment of overcoming.

[SIZE= 12px]But wouldn't Zeus be bored with helping the farmer overcome the obstacle? Either way, this seems to be more of a plot that concentrates on narrative rather than action. The main thing is, why would there be a dice in a RP that revolves around a crippled farmer who's in the midst of Gods? [/SIZE]


[SIZE= 12px]Other than that, dice can also be implemented in PVP, and also helps to define the winner more properly, and more fairly. [/SIZE]

 

[Umbrie]

But wouldn't Zeus be bored with helping the farmer overcome the obstacle? Either way, this seems to be more of a plot that concentrates on narrative rather than action. The main thing is, why would there be a dice in a RP that revolves around a crippled farmer who's in the midst of Gods? 


Other than that, dice can also be implemented in PVP, and also helps to define the winner more properly, and more fairly. 

it definitely sounds like such an RP shouldn't be action focused.

 

[Upton O Goode]

Story about crippled farmer

At the end of the day, the success of that character was a bit up to the good graces of the group/GM, no? I guarantee you, as cool as that scenario sounds, it wouldn't have gone so well with a less favorable lot of people around.


I for one would love to see more stuff like that, but the cynic in me says it will almost never happen.

 

[simj26]

On the other hand, it's a sure sign of a slightly skewed GM if you and a bunch of other pals have already made a bunch of balanced characters, like for instance, A is a super strong combatant, but lacks in interaction with people, and B is a healer support with good communication skills, but sucks at combat.


THEN suddenly, out of nowhere, this guy comes in with BOTH healing ability, the MacGuffin power of the RP, AND ultra combat skills that would put Ghurkas to shame, and then the GM goes "yeah, i think this is fine and balanced".


EDIT: Oh, and they're super pretty and nice so people are supposed to like them immediately.

 

[M.J. Saulnier]

The RP wasn't about the farmer, the gods weren't helping him with any obstacles. Among mortals, no one knew the gods were even gods, hence "awesome god powers" (there weren't even any, such as throwing awesome godly auto-kill thunder bolts) couldn't be used even if you had them.


And the success of said character had nothing to do with any of our graces.


His success was entirely his own. He knew exactly what he was doing from the start. Creating a character he knew the RP needed. He's a brillaint man and writer, so instead of making a hot-shot warrior with all the answers, and a skill set to kill and force his way to the end, he made a mature, challening and complex character the likes of which you'd see in a published novel.


I feel like everyone missed the point. Had he been anything but a non-violent man, he would have represented the aspects of humanity the Gods were pissed off about, all mortals would have died, lol. It was the perfect example of one time no conventional RP character could have worked, they would have been responsible for total genocide, no matter how smart, strong, or skilled they were. And a perfect example of how the notion that skills and abilites matter, is an illusion created by RP etiquette, nothing more. Your strength or weakness dictates your range of playability.


Personality should be your building blocks, if not, you probably have a subpar character, and no one has had the heart to tell you.


A few of you actually thought someone would create an RP about Gods running around among mortals?  What the hell do you guys do around here?!


#dead


On a serious note, let's think about that for a minute guys. Generally speaking, the primary "power" of 90% of gods is merely creation.

 

[duegxybus]

1) Character Description: "He/She can destroy the universe with only 2% of their power but they won't."


2) Also when CSes are accepted without being read. Like, excuse me? I'm glad I'm accepted but I doubt you read all that in 2 seconds. Oh, look, you also accepted Dr. McGameBreaker too. Did you even read it? Their character doesn't even fit the story!


3) Characters that are carbon copies of mine, but they just have a more one-upped concept of mine. *facedesk*


4) This case:


Char A: *walks onto streets*
Char A's writer: (I'm open for interaction)

Like, how do I react to your char walking on the streets? Walk past them in an equally boring manner?

 

[simj26]

The RP wasn't about the farmer, the gods weren't helping him with any obstacles. Among mortals, no one knew the gods were even gods, hence "awesome god powers" (there weren't even any, such as throwing awesome godly auto-kill thunder bolts) couldn't be used even if you had them.


And the success of said character had nothing to do with any of our graces.


His success was entirely his own. He knew exactly what he was doing from the start. Creating a character he knew the RP needed. He's a brillaint man and writer, so instead of making a hot-shot warrior with all the answers, and a skill set to kill and force his way to the end, he made a mature, challening and complex character the likes of which you'd see in a published novel.


I feel like everyone missed the point. Had he been anything but a non-violent man, he would have represented the aspects of humanity the Gods were pissed off about, all mortals would have died, lol. It was the perfect example of one time no conventional RP character could have worked, they would have been responsible for total genocide, no matter how smart, strong, or skilled they were. And a perfect example of how the notion that skills and abilites matter, is an illusion created by RP etiquette, nothing more. Your strength or weakness dictates your range of playability.


Personality should be your building blocks, if not, you probably have a subpar character, and no one has had the heart to tell you.


A few of you actually thought someone would create an RP about Gods running around among mortals?  What the hell do you guys do around here?!


#dead


On a serious note, let's think about that for a minute guys. Generally speaking, the primary "power" of 90% of gods is merely creation.

Lemme copypaste something from some WoW Rper:


[COLOR= rgb(51, 153, 102)]"You can create incredibly diverse and unique characters without having to hammer in 'unique' ideas like this. The best characters I've ever RPed with have been a standard human rogue, an unremarkable worker at the Darkmoone Faire, and and Night Elven cloth merchant.[/COLOR][COLOR= rgb(51, 153, 102)]These characters didn't have any special powers.[/COLOR][COLOR= rgb(51, 153, 102)]They didn't do anything that you've never seen before.[/COLOR][COLOR= rgb(51, 153, 102)]They had no 'unique' aspects applied with scotch tape and super glue.[/COLOR][COLOR= rgb(51, 153, 102)]They were simply RPed very well, and the people behind the keyboard understood how to properly execute and control a character in an interesting fashion to make the characters truly enjoyable to interract with.[/COLOR]


...


[COLOR= rgb(51, 153, 102)]Even if you do have a solid grasp of RP and writing basics, it's really not hard to make a character so needlessly complex that you'll either drown in the details or simply execute it horribly."[/COLOR]

 

[Soul Stealer]

My IC interactions with this unnamed RPer.


INSANELY overpowered character who lives on NORMAL earth with powers, that don't exist because remember this is present century, Realistic Earth, going around and yelling death threats at everyone like "I will loose my heavenly wrath upon you if you were worthy of it", and then approaching my character randomly and saying "You know what you've done" to you know a guy who's, oh, idk, DONE NOTHING, but then gets told otherwise in an elaborate backdrop of how my normal, innocent character robbed several banks, killed several people, and partook in sacrificing children for their blood. and that he needs to die for it. He is then banished to hell and DO YOU SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING


My OOC interactions with this unnamed RPer.


INSANELY overpowered character that he decided that he could just steal from one thing that nobody knows about, spewing references that make no sense and threatening to kill everyone who steps near, BUT ONLY IF THEY PROVE THEMSELVES BY KILLING ONE OF HIS HUNDREDS OF MINIONS THAT ARE LITERALLY GODS so of course all you can do is try and talk to him as he keeps on spewing fucking nonsense DO YOU SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING

 

[The Golden Lion]

My IC interactions with this unnamed RPer.


INSANELY overpowered character who lives on NORMAL earth with powers, that don't exist because remember this is present century, Realistic Earth, going around and yelling death threats at everyone like "I will loose my heavenly wrath upon you if you were worthy of it", and then approaching my character randomly and saying "You know what you've done" to you know a guy who's, oh, idk, DONE NOTHING, but then gets told otherwise in an elaborate backdrop of how my normal, innocent character robbed several banks, killed several people, and partook in sacrificing children for their blood. and that he needs to die for it. He is then banished to hell and DO YOU SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING


My OOC interactions with this unnamed RPer.


INSANELY overpowered character that he decided that he could just steal from one thing that nobody knows about, spewing references that make no sense and threatening to kill everyone who steps near, BUT ONLY IF THEY PROVE THEMSELVES BY KILLING ONE OF HIS HUNDREDS OF MINIONS THAT ARE LITERALLY GODS so of course all you can do is try and talk to him as he keeps on spewing fucking nonsense DO YOU SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING

Again I just get deep into what the roles are is all. Meiyo Hades is well that strong only Seiya could beat him logically speaking.

 

[Flooffy]

After reading all of these, I must say, I am SO glad that I don't do group RPs. I am shy and I feel overwhelmed when there's too many people... the whole overpowered, illogical, etc stories make me think 'I really am dodging the bullet there!', heh xD


Sure, it happens on 1x1 too, but it is easier to just try and talk to them in that, and if they don't want to adjust, I will just say my apologies and leave. Having a weakness is absolutely essential. I make sure my characters are more on the 'imperfect' side, which they try to improve during the RP rather than a beast that can destroy all... I mean... they've already achieved all, what's there left to do?

 

[The Golden Lion]

After reading all of these, I must say, I am SO glad that I don't do group RPs. I am shy and I feel overwhelmed when there's too many people... the whole overpowered, illogical, etc stories make me thing 'I really am dodging the bullet there!', heh xD


Sure, it happens on 1x1 too, but it is easier to just try and talk to them in that, and if they don't want to adjust, I will just say my apologies and leave. Having a weakness is absolutely essential. I make sure my characters are more on the 'imperfect' side, which they try to improve during the RP rather a beast that can destroy all... I mean... they've already achieved all, what's there left to do?

True and well I mainly use well cliche bushi type characters so they're balanced. Unless well Former Crimson King OP as shit. Even Muramasa is OP to a extent.

 

[Flooffy]

True and well I mainly use well cliche bushi type characters so they're balanced. Unless well Former Crimson King OP as shit. Even Muramasa is OP to a extent.

Sure, I suppose Malz would be pretty OP too, being the immortal Prophet of the Void, but that's how it is in canon xD  


but OC wise... if we take for example Tess, she was made for League universe too. A ninja apprentice, who is good with physical training and looks the part. She's had 5 years to learn it, she's not a teen who just can do things. And she still fails miserably when it comes to Shadows, getting a bit panicked, or just freezes up, because seeing a sinister side of oneself, no matter how one tries to deny it, is not a joke, not something you do lightly. Could everyone look into the dark side of your brain, where every thought of murder and death is reality, without being scared, creeped out or bothered? I know I couldn't.

 

[The Golden Lion]

Nice and well despite my current profile theme which is OP as shit. Unless your Seiya or Athena step off clown. Besides that I get you point.

 

[M.J. Saulnier]

Okay, as a devout fan of Greek mythology, there are some things I need to get off my chest.

Dice RPs usually use character sheets and modifiers. modifiers are things that add a bonus or penalty to a given type of die roll. for Example, Zeus's lightning bolts have a massive bonus to damage rolls. massive enough to one shot most opponents; even when he rolls the worst possible roll. and tailoring fights towards Zeus, means the farmer is going to be a useless burden in the story, and tailoring challenges towards the farmer, means its going to be too easy for Zeus. which is why you need to keep player power levels relatively fair.

Having that in any RP is just stupid. This isn't even a power of Zeus', it's more like an item he can equip. Zeus has never possessed the power of these lightning bolts, they are made by his 3 uncles named Brontes, Steropes, and Agres. They are all Cyclopes. The modifier system you describe is ridiculous to a fault.


Also,the use of said thunder bolts made by the Cyclopses, was very rare, Zeus killed a rather unsavory God named Asclepius for trying to raise the dead and shit.

Again I just get deep into what the roles are is all. Meiyo Hades is well that strong only Seiya could beat him logically speaking.

What is a Meiyo Hades, and why are you being ridiculous?

Sure, I suppose Malz would be pretty OP too, being the immortal Prophet of the Void, but that's how it is in canon xD  


but OC wise... if we take for example Tess, she was made for League universe too. A ninja apprentice, who is good with physical training and looks the part. She's had 5 years to learn it, she's not a teen who just can do things. And she still fails miserably when it comes to Shadows, getting a bit panicked, or just freezes up, because seeing a sinister side of oneself, no matter how one tries to deny it, is not a joke, not something you do lightly. Could everyone look into the dark side of your brain, where every thought of murder and death is reality, without being scared, creeped out or bothered? I know I couldn't.

Immortal means you cannot age or die of natural causes, nothing more, a prophet could hardly be considered OP, and what is the "void"?


Also, "she's had 5 years to learn it."


5 years......... You realize it takes longer to get a PHD in Biology?


5 years is being generous to yourself, forcing the issue to fit your desired age range. People spend more time devoting themselves to real world martial arts and still don't even make the global rankings, becuase they aren't that good, even if they can demonstrate every technique and form half decently well.

 

[The Golden Lion]

@Loco Mofo


Um not being that way as it's a fact. It's the name for the king of the underworld in Saint Seiya. Seiya/ Athena  just the only way to logically beat who has full control of Divine Cosmo. Also Hades has non life threatening as he inflicts damage on said targets soul. Yes this is a fandom so yeah in reality it's well illogical.

 

[Flooffy]

Immortal means you cannot age or die of natural causes, nothing more, a prophet could hardly be considered OP, and what is the "void"?


Also, "she's had 5 years to learn it."


5 years......... You realize it takes longer to get a PHD in Biology?


5 years is being generous to yourself, forcing the issue to fit your desired age range. People spend more time devoting themselves to real world martial arts and still don't even make the global rankings, becuase they aren't that good, even if they can demonstrate every technique and form half decently well.

Malz can bend the reality, summon horrors of the Void, cause hallucinations, etc. He is by no means weak or harmless and no normal weapons can really harm him, being protected by the Void. As for the Void itself, it's sort of like parallel dimension to the main one. Nobody knows what it is exactly, only those who came in touch with it or were born in it, but they rarely share the details. It's best to just read up on League lore, really.


She is not in the realistic reality though, that's one factor. She has no higher education, because she had no need or no way to obtain it (semi-medieval setting). I said she was good, but I also said she was still an apprentice. She is a good apprentice, not a ninja. 5 years is just the span she's been learning so far, and I did say she was still struggling with techniques of higher caliber. Maybe if you hadn't missed the details I've mentioned, it wouldn't have sounded as unrealistic

 

[M.J. Saulnier]

There was once an RP character called World Earter. It was a cosmic entity of unknown origin. It's purpose, motivation, and only power was consumption. If it existed, in any capacity, it was eventually found and commended by World Eater. Whether universe, dimension, god, entity, spirit, or mortal. If it existed in any capacity, anywhere, it was consumed, no question asked, no resistance given.


The GM of an old RP created said antagonist force to act as an ominous threat to drive the plot, and ambushed us all with it about 1 quarter of the way through the RP. It served a purpose, and was barely involved other than the fact that it was approaching.


You couldn't discredit it, because someone created it, and again, it served a real purpose and the direct involvement was subtle, however, it was no less ridiculous.

 

[The Golden Lion]

There was once an RP character called World Earter. It was a cosmic entity of unknown origin. It's purpose, motivation, and only power was consumption. If it existed, in any capacity, it was eventually found and commended by World Eater. Whether universe, dimension, god, entity, spirit, or mortal. If it existed in any capacity, anywhere, it was consumed, no question asked, no resistance given.


The GM of an old RP created said antagonist force to act as an ominous threat to drive the plot, and ambushed us all with it about 1 quarter of the way through the RP. It served a purpose, and was barely involved other than the fact that it was approaching.


You couldn't discredit it, because someone created it, and again, it served a real purpose and the direct involvement was subtle, however, it was no less ridiculous.

That well would even stop Saturn Master of Space/Time in the whole cosmos.

 

[M.J. Saulnier]

Interestingly enough, the GM was a complete douche about it.  He offered no solution or course of action. That lead to someone having the genius idea of reasoning with it.


That's how it was "defeated", or rather, redirected. Basically we made it realize that after it had consumed everything, there would be nothing left to consume, and it would therefor have to consume itself, something it couldn't comprehend. It couldn't comprehend not being able to consume either, so it agreed to slow it's pace and leave Earth alone until there was no other choice.


Admittedly, I hated this piece of shit RP. (Forgive me, said GM. I lvoe you, but hate that RP! )

 

[M.J. Saulnier]

@Void Puppy


Hi, I'm Malz, the Void Prohpet.  *bends reality, causes hallucinations and summons void horrors*


Sounds like DC villain reject to me.  Fractured and disjointed.

 

[The Golden Lion]

@Void Puppy


Hi, I'm Malz, the Void Prohpet.  *bends reality, causes hallucinations and summons void horrors*


Sounds like DC villain reject to me.  Fractured and disjointed.

I was going to say well imitation Scarlet Witch

 

[M.J. Saulnier]

I was going to say well imitation Scarlet Witch

I wouldn't associate Poor Wanda with that hot mess.


Wanda is watered down compared Malzahar (yes, I googled him).


The art of subtlety really is a forgotten virtue.

 

[Flooffy]

@Void Puppy


Hi, I'm Malz, the Void Prohpet.  *bends reality, causes hallucinations and summons void horrors*


Sounds like DC villain reject to me.  Fractured and disjointed.

Like I said, he is a canon character, not mine ^^