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welian said:
Hey Swim, @Ghost has a fantastic guide on writing mental illnesses floating around in the Tutorial section. Go find it, and give it a quick read.
ahhh right – ill go look at that again


Also, the wording has been tweaked to be more general and subsequently vague – @crackedbat (since you seem well-versed in the subject) does that look better?
 
Swimswamswom said:
ahhh right – ill go look at that again
Also, the wording has been tweaked to be more general and subsequently vague – @crackedbat (since you seem well-versed in the subject) does that look better?
I wouldn't say I'm more knowledgeable than the next guy, haha... maybe like low medium-knowledgeable...


I think it suffices as a placeholder for now, but I'd avoid "othering" words like abnormal. Saying he's mentally ill is fine! Anyway, I think the resource you were given seems like a good one, so I hope it gives you some better insight into fixing up Eden!
 
@Swimswamswom My vote is still Borderline Personality Disorder and Dissociation.
 
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Quick question: From what I understand, your character needs to be injured badly himself to inflict real harm upon anyone else, correct? In this case, how would this be considered a rank A power? I'm simply curious about the reasoning for this--it's a little fuzzy on me.
 
Rida said:
@Swimswamswom
Quick question: From what I understand, your character needs to be injured badly himself to inflict real harm upon anyone else, correct? In this case, how would this be considered a rank A power? I'm simply curious about the reasoning for this--it's a little fuzzy on me.
Yea, that's pretty much it – and the reason I thought it could qualify as an A power is because he can swap any injury. Well – a combination of that and his actual character. Basically, no matter how light or serious it is, he can touch somebody and pass it off – no matter how close to death he is or anything, as long as he's conscious, he can pass it off. His power meter comes into play here – his toughness is 4, so he's more durable than average humans. His agility is 3, so he can move around better than most normal humans. Basically, he's a pretty good fighter in a sense, so it's not like he's utterly helpless without his power (though he doesn't have as much strength as the average human, but that doesn't matter when all you need to do is touch somebody). In addition, his willpower is 8 – an absurdly large amount. If he's determined, he can power through almost any injury.


Once his injuries are passed off, he heals completely, as if it were never there. So no blood loss, no shock, nothing. As far as its destructive power goes, he can kill people kinda easily if he wants to (for example, accidentally killing his mother at the age of eight). If you want me to elaborate on this part, feel free to ask c:




and also I'm working on the mental illness thing – first is @Manic Muse I don't mean to be hostile here or anything but why do you think so? I poked around some sites on BPD and Dissociation but couldn't really find anything that pertains to him so maybe I missed something


I might end up leaving his specific illness undiagnosed as far as the rp goes – to be honest, it's taking the easy route, but I'm afraid of being inaccurate/disrespectful if I end up not portraying something right
 
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Swimswamswom said:
Yea, that's pretty much it – and the reason I thought it could qualify as an A power is because he can swap any injury. Well – a combination of that and his actual character. Basically, no matter how light or serious it is, he can touch somebody and pass it off – no matter how close to death he is or anything, as long as he's conscious, he can pass it off. His power meter comes into play here – his toughness is 4, so he's more durable than average humans. His agility is 3, so he can move around better than most normal humans. Basically, he's a pretty good fighter in a sense, so it's not like he's utterly helpless without his power (though he doesn't have as much strength as the average human, but that doesn't matter when all you need to do is touch somebody). In addition, his willpower is 8 – an absurdly large amount. If he's determined, he can power through almost any injury.
Once his injuries are passed off, he heals completely, as if it were never there. So no blood loss, no shock, nothing. As far as its destructive power goes, he can kill people kinda easily if he wants to (for example, accidentally killing his mother at the age of eight). If you want me to elaborate on this part, feel free to ask c:




and also I'm working on the mental illness thing – first is @Manic Muse I don't mean to be hostile here or anything but why do you think so? I poked around some sites on BPD and Dissociation but couldn't really find anything that pertains to him so maybe I missed something


I might end up leaving his specific illness undiagnosed as far as the rp goes – to be honest, it's taking the easy route, but I'm afraid of being inaccurate/disrespectful if I end up not portraying something right
Maybe what you can do is start broad and narrow it down. Like Google - what mental illnesses result in hallucinations brought on by a tragic event. Or just hallucinations brought on by tragic event.


See what Google gives you in terms of actual illnesses and look at the overarching symptoms.


Or you know see if just plain hallucinations are a thing. Maybe you don't have to get fancy.
 
@Swimswamswom How dare you not be an expert! lol No problem. This is why I thought it fit.


Borderline personality disorder is characterized by emotion dysregulation, meaning quick, frequent, and painful mood swings that are beyond the control of the person with the problem. People struggling with this problem have great difficulty forming and maintaining relationships. They also experience problems controlling their own spontaneous and reckless behaviors and often have a fluctuating idea about who they are. The overall theme for this disorder is rapid and unpredictable changes in a person’s thoughts, moods, behaviors, relationships, and beliefs.


Very often, these rapid changes are caused by recurring fears of being criticized or deserted by other people, or they are triggered by actions of other people that feel like criticism, such as small disagreements or changes in plans. In response to these types of situations, a person with borderline personality disorder can suddenly become very sad, nervous, angry, or short-tempered. Unfortunately, personality styles like this often create problems in a person’s relationships, job, and other social situations, which is why they’re referred to as personality disorders.


Adding to the bewilderment of the disorder, people struggling with borderline personality disorder might sometimes feel as though they leave their bodies during times of stress and can’t recall what happened. These severe periods of dissociation only add to their unstable sense of self. Similarly, and equally disturbing, are periods of hallucinations that can occur during times of stress or depression.
 
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Swimswamswom said:
ugh im sorry my cs ended up being such a hot mess u guys and thank u all for helping me out
You know what here's a way you can simplify this and avoid offending people. I got the idea when I remembered a original story I read about a guy whose super power was reliving violent events.


What if instead of having a mental illness he actually is seeing his moms ghost or at least has some kind of mental imprint of her in his head.


Like its something that was triggered with his power and he gets different "ghosts" or "hallucinations" every time he has a near death experience or saves someone from near death?


Would that be easier/something you'd be okay with?


Edit: to clarify this would be a side effect of his power or a secondary power.
 
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@CRiTiCAL ERR0R so this is probably a silly question but I've always been curious on how you make the graphic layouts. Not the images (I know how to do those ) but putting them in the bbc code and doing the side bar doohickey.
 
readingraebow said:
@CRiTiCAL ERR0R so this is probably a silly question but I've always been curious on how you make the graphic layouts. Not the images (I know how to do those ) but putting them in the bbc code and doing the side bar doohickey.
A lot of blood, sweat and tearspractice! I could show you sometime. Its kind of difficult to explain? xD
 
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A lot of blood, sweat and tearspractice! I could show you sometime. Its kind of difficult to explain? xD

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Aww thanks but I'm good, they throw off my mobile alignment I was just curious.
 
readingraebow said:
Aww thanks but I'm good, they throw off my mobile alignment I was just curious.
Yeeahh... bbcode on mobile is a pain in the butt. Dx
 
Thank you for your insight, @Pigeon - senpai!


Since her secondary power is a "power radar", she get the gist of what kind of power she just borrow (Is it something related to nature? Is it something related to magnetism?) but she cannot copy it unless she saw that person using his 'nature related power'. After seeing what it exactly can do, only then Mitch could copy the power. So Mitch, as a character, has to befriend everyone and memorize everyone power xD


Also, i fixed the 5th and added the 6th weakness!

[QUOTE="too much idea]Flipped the coin. Head for Nullification and Tail for Copying, got Tail
CASTLE, MITCH

  • Full NameMitch Castle
    CodenameBorrower
    GenderFemale
    Age17
    RankB
    RoleStudent
    SubjectN/A
    RaceChinese American
    Eyes Dark brown
    Hair Dark brown
    Height5' 8"
    BuildColtish
    LimiterLevel 2, active
    NotesWear glasses (Has both the normal looking one and one used for sports/in action), Can speak Mandarin and Cantonese


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While I'm going back and looking over profiles, I've love to hear everyone's thoughts on how to handle the snowball fight. We have a large group of characters, and we need to all be on the same page regarding events.
 
@readingraebow thats a good suggestion but I'm not too sure :S something about it doesn't feel right with his character


Maybe part of it is that it's kinda too far off his original power – wound transfer and seeing ghosts seem more like two individual powers and almost like it was just thrown on there to have it; having a mental illness seems more realistic, to be honest


The closest I can get from what I've researched is delusional disorder, and I'm going to describe him as delusional. Though it may sound like it has a bad connotation, it's an official term. Honestly, this isn't the focal point of his character, the delusions don't really affect his everyday behavior too much, so tbh I'm just gonna leave it at that


I'm sorry for sounding a bit exasperated but i was scrambling to properly diagnose him and it kinda seems like i made it too big of a deal :P
 
@welian


Oh so it's definately going to be a snowball fight? I wasn't sure.


Well I guess are we using powers or are we all nerfed. to normal peeps?


If nerfed I say a simple dice system or maybe a ratio systeM based on how accurate your character will be at throwing stuff.


Like say I think Laurel has lots of enthusiasm but will probably only hit something 1/5 times.


So every fifth post she hits someone.


Then I figure out how good she'll be at dodging. again she's pretty much just a walking target.


So 1/3 of the time she gets hit,


So every three posts she gets hit.


And just weave the ratios into what is happening. In a real snowball fight you might not always see who is hitting you. Especially the way this is set up.


So don't necessarily focus on who hits who but on how many of your hits would connect with someone/something and how many times you'd be hit yourself.


But that's just my two cents and I freely admit it might be needlessly complicating things.
 
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welian said:
While I'm going back and looking over profiles, I've love to hear everyone's thoughts on how to handle the snowball fight. We have a large group of characters, and we need to all be on the same page regarding events.
In what way? As in pvp rules? Victory conditions?
 
@readingraebow Funnily enough, I have an old snowball fight roleplay on another site, with a combat system and everything... but it's not designed for use with powers, it only assumes that you are throwing unmodified snowballs. It's pretty simple, lol. I'd be happy to run it in another IC tab, but I don't think a full scale battle is appropriate for a roleplay of this size. We'd have ten pages of snowballs, and no plot.


@theunderwolf I'm trying to think of a way for every roleplayer to be able to post between two to five times regarding the midterm exams. I don't want it to drag on for more than three pages, because it's really just a way for us to introduce our characters - not get into the story.


There were some good ideas floating around the discord chat, but I'm not about to scroll six hours back to find them. I think I saw @Giyari and @M0N0 somewhere in the discussion though.
 
To start with, why not just some Npc opponents at first for us to either lose or win against then gradually set up some relationsips (Friends rivals enemys etc) through the course of the fight?
 
Swimswamswom said:
@readingraebow thats a good suggestion but I'm not too sure :S something about it doesn't feel right with his character
Maybe part of it is that it's kinda too far off his original power – wound transfer and seeing ghosts seem more like two individual powers and almost like it was just thrown on there to have it; having a mental illness seems more realistic, to be honest


The closest I can get from what I've researched is delusional disorder, and I'm going to describe him as delusional. Though it may sound like it has a bad connotation, it's an official term. Honestly, this isn't the focal point of his character, the delusions don't really affect his everyday behavior too much, so tbh I'm just gonna leave it at that


I'm sorry for sounding a bit exasperated but i was scrambling to properly diagnose him and it kinda seems like i made it too big of a deal :P
Nah it's fine I know how frustrating it can be to properly explain something and mental illness can be a hot button issue which is why I suggested an alternative.


If you want to keep it as non-offensive as possible I'd just stick to the facts. Say he sometimes suffers from hallucinations. Don't bother coming up with a name or designation and let people fill in the blanks themselves. I mean that way you won't get people "um actually" you later.


You know um actually in the medical sense delusions really mean this or that and should come with these side effects.


If you just stick to the relevant facts who cares why he has hallucinations? He does cuz you said so.
 
readingraebow said:
Nah it's fine I know how frustrating it can be to properly explain something and mental illness can be a hot button issue which is why I suggested an alternative.
If you want to keep it as non-offensive as possible I'd just stick to the facts. Say he sometimes suffers from hallucinations. Don't bother coming up with a name or designation and let people fill in the blanks themselves. I mean that way you won't get people "um actually" you later.


You know um actually in the medical sense delusions really mean this or that and should come with these side effects.


If you just stick to the relevant facts who cares why he has hallucinations? He does cuz you said so.
Yea – I feel pretty secure that delusions are the closest thing to what he's experiencing so im just gonna go ahead and use it – but thank u and everyone else so much for helping me with the situation and looking out for me c:


(the original cs has been edited if anyone wants to peek)
 
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@welian expanding on this break everyone up in teams and do a capture the flag kind of objective.


That gives a clear goal for everyone to strive for that will end fight and a chance to build relationships.


Also maybe have it be like ( you must post three times before trying to physically capture flag/use powers or incredible aim to win snowball gpfight)
 

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