Same, and I would even say it's a guilty pleasure.
We seem to have very similar tastes in tropes lol
uyqagdfuyqwegd tHATS A LOT but i agree on the loli one.*Deadly Chef- One of my favorites tropes is definitely anime's deadly chef. These characters have a superhuman lack of skill in cooking, to the point they can perfectly follow a recipe and actively make it a deadly poison, bubbling like a witch's cauldron, and often being acidic enough to melt the table or even come to life as some soup abomination. The most mild of these tend to come with minor mishaps like replacing sugar and salt or using industrial oil instead of cooking oil, while others are aware or otherwise possible to use as weapons of mass destruction, the worst threat an anime character can imagine.
*RPG Fantasy Worlds- I love RPG-esque mechanics in worlds and all the different ways in which not only can they serve as a basis for the story, but can be tweaked to work in very different ways for their respective worlds. There's something also about it where I just get oddly excited about those world's RPG aspects.
*800 Year Old Loli- Combining aspects of wisdom and innocence, badassery and cuteness, this trope of characters appearing like little girls but actually being far older than they appear (and sometimes, than they act) is a trope I really like because it combines so much of the things I like to watch. I really like the cuteness style of anime lolis and I really like characters with baffling amounts of power who are not suppose to be. I like the unique dynamics and bits of wisdom these characters tend to pull out, simple truths with a child's level of wording and an ancient immortal's depth of understanding.
*Traps and Genderbends are the Cutest Things- In anime there is this hilarious trope wherein often the ones aknowledged as the cutest girls aren't actually girls at all, but traps or in some manga genderbends. The contrast of the meta knowledge of this, as well as the characters trying to self-argue about the whole idea is just hilarious to watch, especially in stuff like this:
*Pointing out the Tropes Trope- Another anime thing, I tend to really like anime's internal humor idea of gradually incorporating it's own tropes with a heavy degree of self-awareness, having the character's be conscious of them and using it to either reinforce or pull a twist on the trope. Even better is when the anime plays meta and actively exploits the trope in some way.
*Hypnosis is Brainwashing on Steroids- One of the things that always fascinated me the most is hypnosis. It's always been a perplexing and truly fascinating topic for me, not to mention exciting, but upon doing research I discovered it wasn't quite what I originally throught it might be. Nonetheless, I love that the idea of hypnosis is that more fantastical version, where one can magically and with no preparations snap their fingers and make someone else think they are a dog. Speaking of which...
*Werewolves are Dogs- I like dogs. I like the idea of werewolves essentially having dog-like behavior in either form.
*Self-sacrificial misunderstood hero- And just general suffering-based self-sacrifice. If there's a story that really pulls my heartstrings, this is one of them. A character sacrificing not their life or their physical well-being but their place in the world, society and people's eyes. A hero who is a hero because they will genuinely take the blow and make the call to ave the day, or who endures the suffering for the sake of what makes them heroic.
*Repenting Monster- Remorse is perhaps the emotion that I can most relate to. For reasons that don't matter here, there is much I regret about my past, actions done selfishly and without proper thought or care that are reflected in my life and relationships today. It is for this reason that stories where characters can overcome their past mistakes- mistakes they were inexcusably responsible for- and overcome the scars of the monster they used to be resonate with me so well.
*Comedic Misunderstandings- Sometimes, anime conversations where simple lapses in wording or context can have an entire conversation where the characters feel increasingly more like the other person is insane or they themselves become increasingly more confused, as the audience gets to witness them both misunderstanding each other in the most hilarious way.
*The Perfect Child- In stories about parenting more often than not, the children are just as idealized as the parents. They are much more mature than a child their age is supposed to be, they make less fusses are altogether better children for their parents. There's a lot less of a mess involved all in all, but despite this lack of realism, I think it helps to sell the emotional perspective of the movies. After all, the entire concept of the movie or the show is predicated on the conflict of parenting, so it only makes sense to connect the to the emotional state by showing the child in a better light, a light closer to what the parent might see in their child. Or at least so I think. What I know is that movies about that element like Maquia when the promised flower blooms and Wolf Children have really been impactful movies for me, and I think that one of the reasons why, other than parenting instincts I believe I've developed, though since I don't yet actually have children of my own I wouldn't be able to tell if they are.
I could go at this all day, I think, so I'll stop for now. I'll add something else here if I feel it's really important to include it.
I notice that pretty much all of my tropes are from anime. Then again, did you expect anything else from me?
Yeah no worries. I understand why and I definitely don't hold it against you for not liking it.
I wouldn't say loli is exactly a good thing to like. The term isn't ideal, considering you could probably phrase it as 'immortal but forever young."
ok let me rephrase.
That is entirely and completely wrong. Loli simply means a character, in anime, which looks or acts like a young child. That is it. There is no sexual implication there, and it frankly pisses me off to no end that people come and claim sexual implications on terms like this.
The word 'loli' comes from the term 'lolicon,' which comes from the word 'Lolita,' which is from the novel Lolita by* Vladimir Nabokov. The term does have an original meaning, and it's not just in reference these days to someone who looks or acts like a young child. I'm not sure where you came up with just the term for someone who acts like a child, but it's easy to look up the word and the origins.
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meant since he literally said a 800 year old looking loli. like bitch is fucking old, obviously there is consent.
I don't care about the consent, because I don't like these characters in any romantic or sexual way- I just think they are cute, funny and cool. What I'm arguing against is precisely that sexual and worse, pedophilic implications are being shoved into my mouth through words I use, and into those very words.
completely understandable and I agree with you. I legit just find them adorable and cute. But what
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was talking about is age of consent in that case and because unfortunately in the urban dictionary apparently its part of the definition. Just clarifying.
then the dictionary is wrong or incomplete- because that's not the actual use of the word, at least not within the context in question.completely understandable and I agree with you. I legit just find them adorable and cute. But what
You can just look up the novel, hence why I provided the author of the novel. In short, the narrator nicknames his victim 'Lolita,' as her name is Dolores. (Not sure how it comes up as Lolita, but that's how it goes) Even the wiki page you cited to me references the novel Lolita, as Lolita fashion didn't emerge until the novel itself was published. I'm not using urban dictionary as a point of reference, I'm using the source of the word and the implication behind it.
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I never stated the above. And you're absolutely right that they are disgusted by the term and would rather not associate with it. But that's exactly the issue, it's an echo chamber that doesn't actually look at how the word is used by the people who actually use it.
I know the novel. It is not exactly the first time it's brought up, and I understand it's value, but it is still an error to associate it with a term that has nothing to do with it just because they sound similar. "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" and the idea that given context the word "loli" has any sexual implications is certainly an extraordinary claim.
uiqfhiouqewhfoiquwhf i cant stand that trobe LMFAO i love the idea of it but when its friends who are assholes like nah my hoe ass friend imma watch you die and laugh and then ask you if you are ok xHAH(AUIHDIWUDH
