Fandom Naruto AU: Era of Tomorrow OOC

[Yanipurr]

How’s it going folks?

Pretty good bout yourself?

Oh man, really sorry, but my brain is completely fried today. I went for a nap in the afternoon and when I woke up half my brain stayed asleep. Could be a migraine coming.

I'm going to hope that tomorrow I will be more alert and can talk characters because the hype is REAL.

This is why I don't nap and totally nothing to do with the fact I physically cannot nap.

Well, luckily tomorrow is also another day I am free so the hype train can go on hold for now.

Ok. We will see how tomorrow goes.

FYI for the group: The plan is for this rp to start its IC within the next few days. So hopefully we will have characters up and ready to go by then. It appears we have three out of four so far, any updates or possible timelines for a CS post RisenFromAshes ?

Yeah other than the joint backstory parts my character is complete.

 

[The Silent Z]

Pretty good bout yourself?


This is why I don't nap and totally nothing to do with the fact I physically cannot nap.

Well, luckily tomorrow is also another day I am free so the hype train can go on hold for now.


Yeah other than the joint backstory parts my character is complete.

I’m good, a bit sleepy after a late night and work. But waking up slowly now after some rest.

Looking forward to seeing how this all turns out and the cast interactions/dynamics in the rp.

Cool! Mine is as well. Just the collective group history is what’s left.

 

[Crayons]

Pretty good bout yourself?


This is why I don't nap and totally nothing to do with the fact I physically cannot nap.

Well, luckily tomorrow is also another day I am free so the hype train can go on hold for now.


Yeah other than the joint backstory parts my character is complete.

I can't get through the day without a nap any more.

I think I'm good to go once we do the joint backstory as well.

 

[Crayons]

Ok so here's some thoughts I had reading through our team sheets!

First of all our team is very "think first, fight later" with Yori's tactical ability, Suiren's strategic mind and Mai always wanting to think things through first (although she will probably need a few "encouragements" as she tends to do that -too- much.) I think this would work pretty well for them as a squad.

Suiren and Mai: Both are ambitious types. Suiren would have a deal of scepticism about Mai believing she got everything off her own back, considering that she is born to a noble and exclusive ninja family. I can imagine that at first Suiren would think Mai was deluding herself but as they start to work together, she would begin having more respect for Mai and her abilities. Suiren is ambitious too and I could see some kind of rivalry between them.

I can somehow see Mai giving people a dressing-down with her direct and imperious words, and Suiren standing next to her, backing her up with a quiet smirk at the party on the end of the tongue lashing.

Suiren with Yori: I could see Suiren trying to prod Yori a bit with him being very quiet. Half teasing him and half encouraging him to be more confident. Maybe she'd be the one to approach him with conciliation after Mai yells at him for not believing in himself.

Anyway guys thats some first thoughts! Hit me with yours

 

[Crayons]

Added a sketch of Suiren to my CS! And also switched her names to match everyone's format.

 

[The Silent Z]

Added a sketch of Suiren to my CS! And also switched her names to match everyone's format.

Nice! The sketch looks really good!

Ok so here's some thoughts I had reading through our team sheets!

First of all our team is very "think first, fight later" with Yori's tactical ability, Suiren's strategic mind and Mai always wanting to think things through first (although she will probably need a few "encouragements" as she tends to do that -too- much.) I think this would work pretty well for them as a squad.

Suiren and Mai: Both are ambitious types. Suiren would have a deal of scepticism about Mai believing she got everything off her own back, considering that she is born to a noble and exclusive ninja family. I can imagine that at first Suiren would think Mai was deluding herself but as they start to work together, she would begin having more respect for Mai and her abilities. Suiren is ambitious too and I could see some kind of rivalry between them.

I can somehow see Mai giving people a dressing-down with her direct and imperious words, and Suiren standing next to her, backing her up with a quiet smirk at the party on the end of the tongue lashing.

Suiren with Yori: I could see Suiren trying to prod Yori a bit with him being very quiet. Half teasing him and half encouraging him to be more confident. Maybe she'd be the one to approach him with conciliation after Mai yells at him for not believing in himself.

Anyway guys thats some first thoughts! Hit me with yours

The tactical nature of the team will be a nice attribute to have. Will make for some interesting combinations as well, I can picture a few combo’s where Yori lures the enemy into a close range physical attack and traps them once they strike at his body within a rubber form that molds and traps them long enough for Suiren or Mai to take advantage with a poisonous strike or a sure hit with her genjutsu, while Mai could land a nice hit with her rope dart or hammer. I also kinda see Yori playing the defensive game offering more support to his teammates rather then showcasing his offensive capabilities on the same level that Mai and Suiren might, partly due to his confidence and how he’d see himself being the most use and because the way this trio is built, he might have more options defensively then Mai and Suiren. Though if I’m wrong let me know, just a early thought when looking over CS’s and builds. (Not to say Yori doesn’t chime in offensively or have his moments. But over the years together and the way his esteem is, Yori would have played more of a supporting role. Part of the growth over the years could be his showing more initiative and willingness to jump in offensively too.)

Yori probably wouldn’t have too much issue with Mai in terms of clan and the advantages she may have had though may find her a bit much at times. I imagine he will have his moments of being irritated enough that it winds up in various and brief outbursts of frustration, even if it’s merely to let off steam and let people know to back off a bit and give him some time. (Though this will probably be more rare then anything due to his personality.) Overall his experience with his grandfather and the training he went through with him would make it easier to endure Mai’s yelling at him. He wouldn’t be impervious to it, he’d still not feel the greatest but he’d likely have heard and endured worse. Meanwhile he’d have grown a healthy respect for Mai and her accomplishments.



When it comes to Suiren, Yori would probably have gotten used to the teasing, though at first I imagine it would have been new territory for him, but probably helped the pair in the long run in terms of working together and getting along. While he’d quietly appreciate her prodding him to be more confident and conciliation after words from Mai. I’d see Yori looking to Suiren and observing her methods for his own improvement and understanding of not just poisons but mostly to better understand Genjutsu and how to fend against it. Ultimately her use of poisons and defense against them would also I imagine prove useful for the team as a whole along with learning how to defend against genjutsu. Not just Yori’s own observations to improve himself.

Overall, with Mai and Suiren I’d say Yori doesn’t really communicate his feelings too well and uses more action based methods of showing he cares and respects or in how he responds to something. So they might have needed a adjustment period to understand him since he uses more silent ways of informing them of one thing or another. Though I’d say they probably in turn have helped him come out of his shell more and communicate with them better through actually talking. The former could prove useful to some degree in battle and other scenarios cause they could get a sense of Yori and each other without constantly talking things out aloud and giving things away.

Anyways, those are my early thoughts so far. I’ve gotta re-read CS’s and check out Risen’s Jonin just to make sure I didn’t miss anything or get a wrong idea here or there. But I like what I saw and agree with what you’ve added Crayons : )

The chunin exams would have been quite interesting to have seen with this squad.

 

[The Silent Z]

Hello Folks,

I took a extra amount of time giving this some thought and due to RL schedule couldn’t focus completely on the matter and Rp in general during said time. I’ve also reviewed the CS for your character twice RisenFromAshes and can not approve the Jonin at its present state.

Amongst the reasons why:
It presents a few concerns with being op. The rp is meant to be more lax in comparison to other powers related rps and Naruto rps in general, but when you make your character younger then Kakashi Hatake and give them more rep and accomplishments then he arguably had, all before the age of 18 and in some cases even younger then that it poses a few concerns. In short; It exceeds the starting cap, skill/power level wise. If you could please edit your character cs it would be appreciated.

 

[RisenFromAshes]

You’re overestimating Hachi.

I’ll explain later cuz I’m busy rn, but you are definitely overestimating Hachi and underestimating Kakashi.

 

[The Silent Z]

You’re overestimating Hachi.

I’ll explain later cuz I’m busy rn, but you are definitely overestimating Hachi and underestimating Kakashi.

The matter has been reviewed and settled, Hachi isn’t approved at the present state. Debate over who’s overestimating and underestimating is a different matter and doesn’t change the decision. I’m going off facts you listed and described in your own Cs and timeline of age with what is more appropriate to the rp and it’s acceptable levels.

 

[RisenFromAshes]

*shrug* It's within my right, even if you aren't going to heed it. Besides, it really is just a matter of you underestimating the setting and overestimating my writing. Like, I wrote the entire thing while taking in the context of the setting as you conveyed it to me. And as this has effects moving past the CS into the actual RP, establishing these expectations is something that I'll have to address with you at some point, regardless of the time and place. Why not now?

It presents a few concerns with being op. The rp is meant to be more lax in comparison to other powers related rps and Naruto rps in general, but when you make your character younger then Kakashi Hatake and give them more rep and accomplishments then he arguably had, all before the age of 18 and in some cases even younger then that it poses a few concerns.

You're comparing the top jonin of one of the largest, most populous villages in the setting with the top jonin of one of the smallest villages in the setting. Hachi is a big fish; Takigakure is a little pond. Meanwhile Kakashi is a big fish in a big pond, was a big fish in a big pond since before he was 12, and is only like 4 to 5 years older than him, max. Comparing him to Kakashi and saying Kakashi might be lacking is kinda wack. (Granted, I did base him off of Kakashi so the comparison is not completely unfounded, but he's not supposed to be stronger than Kakashi)

I'll give you some numbers for reference.*

Hachiro: 9/10/14 - Genin/Chunin/Jonin
Kakashi: 5/6/11 or 12/12 or 13 - Genin/Chunin/Jonin/ANBU Captain**
Rin Nohara: 9/11/Died
Obito Uchiha: 9/11/Died
Might Guy: 7/11***/???
Kurenai Yuhi: 9/13/???
Asuma Sarutobi: 9/12/???
etc.

*I'm not comparing it to anyone's graduation during peace time ascendancy, since that's denying the context of the Third Shinobi World War (but we do know that Neji and the Sand Siblings made Jonin in peacetime at approx. 15 minimum and 17 maximum)
**A lot of his pre-series anecdotes come from the 12-14 period as well
***Was cleared to participate in the Exams at 7, but lost to Kakashi

Note that all those Konoha guys actually had real Chunin Exams, as opposed to a field promotion, which is an important detail. Field promotions occur because everyone in their group with more experience is dead or the individual has distinguished themself sufficiently. Both are the case here, but its more a matter of the former than the latter.

The Third Shinobi World War is described canonically (and in the bio!) as being the kind of war where freshly minted genin go off to die, even for the big villages. Takigakure is far smaller and thus has less manpower, meaning the probability should be increased in a similar proportion. I've explicitly or implicitly suggested that a lot of his anecdotes happen to be matters of "You're one of the only few qualified people left" as opposed to "Wow, you're super duper powerful." I want to say the only places I suggest in the History are his Jonin promotion (where manpower issues were the most implied, but also a factor I considered) and when I call him a big threat in the group of escorts for a Jinch candidate.*

*I predict this might come up later, so I'll address it now: yes, he fought a Bijuu (with specialists and reinforcements, I might add), but it's Chomei, and Chomei is not a very aggressive bijuu esp. compared to Berserk Kurama. It's more comparable to subjugating Isobu in Shippuden, which could have been resolved by literally three chunin and a jonin if Otogakure hadn't attacked them mid seal.

In short; It exceeds the starting cap, skill/power level wise.

I'd let this criticism fly if the starting cap had not been so nebulously defined. As far as I can tell, your only specification is just "weaker than the usual" despite having canon beats still applying elsewhere in the world, hence using canon beats as my benchmark. And I certainly hope all that up there is evidence enough that he doesn't trump Part 1 or Pre-Part 1 Kakashi. Or even Guy, considering he could pop all Eight Gates in his teen years.

If you want my point of comparison, he's probably around Asuma's level. They have roughly similar fighting styles, too.

 

[The Silent Z]

*shrug* It's within my right, even if you aren't going to heed it. Besides, it really is just a matter of you underestimating the setting and overestimating my writing. Like, I wrote the entire thing while taking in the context of the setting as you conveyed it to me. And as this has effects moving past the CS into the actual RP, establishing these expectations is something that I'll have to address with you at some point, regardless of the time and place. Why not now?



You're comparing the top jonin of one of the largest, most populous villages in the setting with the top jonin of one of the smallest villages in the setting. Hachi is a big fish; Takigakure is a little pond. Meanwhile Kakashi is a big fish in a big pond, was a big fish in a big pond since before he was 12, and is only like 4 to 5 years older than him, max. Comparing him to Kakashi and saying Kakashi might be lacking is kinda wack. (Granted, I did base him off of Kakashi so the comparison is not completely unfounded, but he's not supposed to be stronger than Kakashi)

I'll give you some numbers for reference.*

Hachiro: 9/10/14 - Genin/Chunin/Jonin
Kakashi: 5/6/11 or 12/12 or 13 - Genin/Chunin/Jonin/ANBU Captain**
Rin Nohara: 9/11/Died
Obito Uchiha: 9/11/Died
Might Guy: 7/11***/???
Kurenai Yuhi: 9/13/???
Asuma Sarutobi: 9/12/???
etc.

*I'm not comparing it to anyone's graduation during peace time ascendancy, since that's denying the context of the Third Shinobi World War (but we do know that Neji and the Sand Siblings made Jonin in peacetime at approx. 15 minimum and 17 maximum)
**A lot of his pre-series anecdotes come from the 12-14 period as well
***Was cleared to participate in the Exams at 7, but lost to Kakashi

Note that all those Konoha guys actually had real Chunin Exams, as opposed to a field promotion, which is an important detail. Field promotions occur because everyone in their group with more experience is dead or the individual has distinguished themself sufficiently. Both are the case here, but its more a matter of the former than the latter.

The Third Shinobi World War is described canonically (and in the bio!) as being the kind of war where freshly minted genin go off to die, even for the big villages. Takigakure is far smaller and thus has less manpower, meaning the probability should be increased in a similar proportion. I've explicitly or implicitly suggested that a lot of his anecdotes happen to be matters of "You're one of the only few qualified people left" as opposed to "Wow, you're super duper powerful." I want to say the only places I suggest in the History are his Jonin promotion (where manpower issues were the most implied, but also a factor I considered) and when I call him a big threat in the group of escorts for a Jinch candidate.*

*I predict this might come up later, so I'll address it now: yes, he fought a Bijuu (with specialists and reinforcements, I might add), but it's Chomei, and Chomei is not a very aggressive bijuu esp. compared to Berserk Kurama. It's more comparable to subjugating Isobu in Shippuden, which could have been resolved by literally three chunin and a jonin if Otogakure hadn't attacked them mid seal.



I'd let this criticism fly if the starting cap had not been so nebulously defined. As far as I can tell, your only specification is just "weaker than the usual" despite having canon beats still applying elsewhere in the world, hence using canon beats as my benchmark. And I certainly hope all that up there is evidence enough that he doesn't trump Part 1 or Pre-Part 1 Kakashi. Or even Guy, considering he could pop all Eight Gates in his teen years.

If you want my point of comparison, he's probably around Asuma's level. They have roughly similar fighting styles, too.

You’re overlooking a great detail amongst others in effort to justify your character and have not completely kept up with information about the rp.

Kakashi never fought a tailed beast pre-Naruto (Hachi did) even after the third war and overseeing Naruto’s growth he never saw combat against the nine tails. Two tails cloak at best and he was given the details of what to look for and answer how to quickly nullify its chakra by Jiraiya. (Shippūden timeline not original)

Kakashi has noted weaknesses and limits especially where the Sharingan is involved. Hachi does not have any notable weaknesses mentioned or referenced. He’s a medical ninja on top of his other abilities, (Note this all but makes Crayon’s, Suiren redundant and less unique) saying he’s not Kakashi level or guy level is crazy, Ice release, medical ninjutsu and a expertise in Kenjutsu just from what’s named definitely placed him on their level. Kabuto with his knowledge and medical ninjutsu alone was said to be Kakashi level. (During part 1, no less) The term prodigious was used to describe the guy which ordinarily wouldn’t be a issue, but added to the above and making repeated mentions of power and being so reputable, added that he may be the most powerful in the village. It’s one thing to note a Jonin being amongst the most powerful of their village but adding (if not the) along with it and it adds to a trend.

You mention I set no clarity to acceptable power levels.... well I did reference that detail days ago when regarding the genin-chunin roles. Using that as a tool for guidance when making a Jonin and you could have a fair idea. Also, instead of asking indirectly about usage of the seven tails and joking about a Jinchuriki Sensei (a joke that really wasn’t clearly a joke) you could ask for a expanded version of acceptable power levels if you had any uncertainties there. You also had three CS’s to go off of for further assistance. (Each Cs has notable drawbacks and weaknesses mentioned during the course of respective Cs’s) yours did not.

A character with trust issues from the village elders and higher ups wouldn’t be given a squad of genin to oversee and mentor. It’s one thing to make use of war time periods to advance in rank, it’s another to make a character that comes off as op and do it all type. War experience, tailed beast fighting experience, notable feats with little mention of assistance outside of the tailed beast and having a acceptable but powerful kg with medical ninjutsu and specialty of weapon based combat and your appearing overboard while taking away from other characters already noted specialties that was meant to make them unique and different from others. (Now it appears like no objections from others so far) but that’s taking a jonin’s vast array of jutsu a bit far and unnecessarily so, also without any apparent consideration of the other characters.

Asuma is also a very rough comparison as the man had no Kg nor use of medical ninjutsu. And doesn’t have the level of feats pre-Naruto and any experience with bijuu your oc already has by the age of 22. Your character has elements of Kakashi, Asuma and a medical nin wrapped into one. Yet I’m to believe he’s only on par with Asuma despite how your CS reads and noted abilities mentioned? Asuma happens to be another amongst my all time favorites and while I do think he’s underrated and could have had great fights with a number of folks in the series. He was made out to be lesser in power to Kakashi and Guy during part 1. Asuma, Kurenai, Baki, non-Sharingan Kakashi would be decent comparisons into what’s acceptable and could be accepted. They each had their weaknesses and limits, I’m not seeing that with your oc.

Again, you have your criticisms, fine, but your character is not approved.

 

[Crayons]

Since this is a collab situation and Steven has already asked you to change your character (which I agree is OP and needs changing) here's some other things for you to think about when you rework him:

• He has too many "specialisms", there's no reason to have so many. Why a tiger summon on top of all that?
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• Think about why he was allowed to mentor a genin team when he is mistrusted by the village and every ninja in that village is a precious commodity. These are people's children and the village's future.
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• Think about his style of leadership and how he handles having these three kids that depend on him.
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• Tailor some of his abilities to work with the existing team we have. Could he have taught any of them some of his techniques? Do they know X because Hachiro does X? (Much like how Kakashi taught Sasuke the Chidori if you need an example, except you would do it retroactively using the genins existing skills)
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• Try not to take away from our team dynamic by making your character an expert in an area adjacent to but not exactly the same as one of the existing characters. Yes, I'm talking about the medic nin thing which makes Suiren pretty redundant.

Hope these things help you rework him.

 

[Yanipurr]

Sorry I've been stupidly busy. With a bit of luck I should be able to give my thoughts on our characters later tonight.

 

[The Silent Z]

Sorry I've been stupidly busy. With a bit of luck I should be able to give my thoughts on our characters later tonight.

No problem, understandable pretty hectic these days.

 

[The Silent Z]

Alright folks,

I’ll be placing a deadline of tomorrow around noon, afterwards the role will be Re-opened and those on the waiting list will be given a chance with submitting a character to claim that Jonin/Mentor role. We’ve seen plenty on this matter already and we will be moving forward in one fashion or another.

Thank you for your time, patience and interest in the rp! Good day to you and best of luck avoiding that Coronavirus mess.

 

[The Silent Z]

Ok folks,

Apologies for the triple post but the time has now come and gone for the deadline. So we shall be moving forward without Risen in the rp, furthermore I shall tag the first name on the waiting list and see if they are interested in submitting a character for possible claim and acceptance for the role of Jonin/Sensei.

ElenaIsCool Hello, If your still interested we now have a open role in the rp. As noted above the spot of Jonin/Sensei is open, if you’d like to post a oc and see about it being approved for the role?

 

[ElenaIsCool]

Ok cool!

 

[ElenaIsCool]

Is it ok for me to transit a character from an old RP to this one? I'll have to change some things to fit the setting though

 

[The Silent Z]

Ok cool!

Any questions feel free to ask away. Or if you’d like to collaborate on ideas as well, feel free.

 

[The Silent Z]

Is it ok for me to transit a character from an old RP to this one? I'll have to change some things to fit the setting though

Pending on the character, it’s possible. What kind of character is it? (Power wise, etc)

 

[ElenaIsCool]

Well, in the old RP, a teacher who preffered attacking from the shadows or using clones and genjutsus to fight, then jump in.
Was also really sneaky..

Also can we create our own Kekkei Genkai?

 

[The Silent Z]

Well, in the old RP, a teacher who preffered attacking from the shadows or using clones and genjutsus to fight, then jump in.
Was also really sneaky..

Also can we create our own Kekkei Genkai?

Since the Medical/poisons/genjutsu is the build for Crayons character. Perhaps swap the genjutsu out something else? And yes, you can create a KG for your character just be mindful of the power scales.

 

[ElenaIsCool]

Ok

Ninjutsu then? I remember making them better at ninjutsu than taijutsu if that's ok

 

[The Silent Z]

Ok

Ninjutsu then? I remember making them better at ninjutsu than taijutsu if that's ok

I’d offer taking a gander of the trio in the CS thread to see the different builds we have. Pending on the ninjutsu it should be fine, it has plenty of range to not overshadow others.

Yanipurr’s Mai utilizes Bukaijutsu (Weapon based techniques/fighting style) incorporating it into her Taijutsu to improve that area of her characters combat.

Mine, utilizes his clans hiden to a variety of ways. Though limited in its way of what all it can do. So Yori, uses ninjutsu but the nature of his hiden is very physical and only possesses a limited number of techniques between now and the future that would be producing rubber constructed shapes that could be spewed from his body and formed from his chakra and hiden. Most of his hiden utilizes a unique form of ninjutsu that lends to his Taijutsu and other aspects that affect his physical body

For a brief overview.

 

[ElenaIsCool]

Hm..

Ok, just did a quick read on everyone's fighting styles..

Mai focuses on long range, quick taijutsu and isn't as good with ninjutsu and genjutsu
Suiren focuses on genjutsu and poisons along with ninjutsu rather than taijutsu (That's correct right?)
And Yori is a sensor type that is good at taijutsu and ninjutsu but not as good at genjutsu..

Hm

So.. Each character with their strongest suit..

Mai= Taijutsu
Suiren=Genjutsu
Yori=Ninjutsu(?)

Hm, an overall good balance