Viewpoint Unpopular roleplay opinions?

[Shivana]

I have nothing against anime FC's, provided they're kept within RP's where they actually fit. Joining a RP that is supposed to be gritty and realistic, only to have the other players use anime FC's, really ruins the immersion for me.

Personally, I'd say I have a pretty vivid imagination so I can imagine an amine FC as a real person and a real person in anime form so it doesn't bother me personally, but I try not to do it.

 

[Murdergurl]

I have nothing against anime FC's, provided they're kept within RP's where they actually fit. Joining a RP that is supposed to be gritty and realistic, only to have the other players use anime FC's, really ruins the immersion for me.

^this. Like, i generally don't like it. But I also respect that people have their tastes and they shouldn't have to reflect mine. But when you have cartoony goofs cropping up in an atmosphere that really does not call for it. Well, then it really irks me.

 

[Jannah]

^this. Like, i generally don't like it. But I also respect that people have their tastes and they shouldn't have to reflect mine. But when you have cartoony goofs cropping up in an atmosphere that really does not call for it. Well, then it really irks me.

Yes and I don't like it so I generally avoid serious RP's where people are using anime FC's. I am okay with it in stuff like Avatar: TLA since that's an animated series anyway. In fact, in that case I don't like realistic FC's. For me the FC's need to fit the setting and genre.

 

[Murdergurl]

Yes and I don't like it so I generally avoid serious RP's where people are using anime FC's. I am okay with it in stuff like Avatar: TLA since that's an animated series anyway. In fact, in that case I don't like realistic FC's. For me the FC's need to fit the setting and genre.

well, I mean, yeah... it'd be kindof out-of-sorts to use a realistic or photo ref faceclaim in an RP that was based on an anime. So it goes both ways

 

[Melpomene]

"Slow burn" romances are not as great as people make them out to be and two people instantly liking each other is not unrealistic. People seem to get their perception of love and attraction from anime and YA novels but here is the reality. Look at any relationship you've been in and tell me if it took months of pining and or developing a friendship for you to know you liked them or get into a relationship with them?

Instant love might be much but liking someone is perfectly fine I personally find it more fun to write the actual relationship than to write the pining. People make the mistake of thinking being in a relationship instantly means you are in love, no you can still develop relationships and feelings of characters while they are involved, relationship development does not end at the first kiss

My mother and stepfather have been together for 23 years and weren't truly in love until 6 or 7 years in. My uncle and his wife have been in love since high school, everyone is different.

I've always found this funny. I am also not a fan of slow burn, half the time I think it is the writers purposely elongating the time of the couple getting together for very arbitrary reasons. I know it's because some people like "the chase" but still. Many people date. While love at first sight might not exist, attraction, interest and the like exist, so two people deciding to court each other pretty quickly isn't unrealistic at all.

It's also why I think writing about couples who are already together is underrated. Like... There are still relationship things going in after the first kiss or the declaration of love. They probably will still have problems and issues.

 

[Crayons]

I've always found this funny. I am also not a fan of slow burn, half the time I think it is the writers purposely elongating the time of the couple getting together for very arbitrary reasons. I know it's because some people like "the chase" but still. Many people date. While love at first sight might not exist, attraction, interest and the like exist, so two people deciding to court each other pretty quickly isn't unrealistic at all.

It's also why I think writing about couples who are already together is underrated. Like... There are still relationship things going in after the first kiss or the declaration of love. They probably will still have problems and issues.

Yesss I loved playing a husband and wife couple with my rp buddy, it was so much fun. My character - the wife really had her husband's back and did tons of scheming on his behalf, some of which he knew about and approved and other things she kept to herself. Middle aged couple love is just as good as teenage pining love.

I'd like to see more couples doing stuff in all media tbh I'm kind of sick of the "get the girl/guy" storylines. And if they are married it's always an infidelity storyline, I'm so done with it. Still playing out that slow burn romance in one rp I'm doing though. It's a trope that will never die.

 

[BackSet]

I've always kind of liked unrequited love where one character knows another character has a crush on them and doesn't reciprocate those feelings but still tries to be friends and maybe even messing with them every once in a while.

 

[BackSet]

One more thing about slow burn: given the average length of your average rp (ie. how long it takes it to die), slow burn is probably generally a really poor idea.

 

[Idea]

Oh, i never said American cartoons aren't guilty of the same thing. I actually think a lot of cartoons that people fawn over with gushing nostalgia were complete trash in their animation. But I also don't see those cartoons running rampant as face claims.

And lets face it... most people aren't using stuff like this as faceclaims
View attachment 801245

I'm talking about stuff like this (pulled off a quick google search of "anime face"), which is the mainstay style of anime faceclaims I've seen out there:
View attachment 801246View attachment 801247View attachment 801248

That first and last pic might even be the same guy if it werent for the hair and eye color. Hell, one might even be a girl. They are that nondescript.

I'm not sure what you mean, I see a number of differences in the faces presented here, even if we ignore the hair. For instance, the two you say could almost be the same have different nose, chin and eye shapes and the color and style of their hair is different (even if admittedly the style isn't very different). Same goes for eye color. I think the only elements of the face here that aren't different are the eyebrows and skin shade. The actual details of the faces are very different, although yes there is a common form of representation. Yes, the nose is made with a simplistic three lines, but the way those are drawn and placed can convey something very different.

Now, as others before me have said and I apologize for pressing on the topic when maybe it was already resolved, there is of course no need for you to like them, and you may think the differences I pointed out are irrelevant or at least not sufficient. I also agree and know for a fact that there are a lot of extremely similar anime faces, something images of guys are especially guilty of as there isn't nearly the variety there is with female characters. However, I did want to point out those differences clearly are there even in the example you said was closest to identical.

Since I'm responding, I think it's only fair I add why I use and like my partners using anime faceclaims myself. The main reason is simple: I like looking at them. I just think they look good, they are aesthetically pleasing to my eye. I cannot say the same of most other types of faceclaims. Semi-realistic artwork is also good for me, but to a lesser extent. If someone is using a faceclaim, that means I'll have to see it. Logically, wanting that to be something I like seeing makes sense.

Another reason would be the fact the faceclaim acts as a filter of sorts: It's more likely someone who likes anime in general will be willing to use an anime faceclaim, whereas people who don't like it are less likely to agree to it. I watch and love a lot of anime and manga, and I'm quite aware that it inevitably influences my tastes and ideas. If the person doesn't like that style of things to begin with, we're not going to have a good time with one another.

Lastly, despite the name "faceclaims" the face isn't really the important part for me and I imagine most people. The focus is usually more on the general body, a representation of the character overall if you will. A more, for lack of a better word, "cartoony" medium is less constricted by realism in this regard, and anime in particular can be quite off the rails and imaginative, moreso than most media I mean. Even comic books would at least need some buildup from some normal character or be specifically aiming for a whacky story, before anyone would go something as crazy as "octopus creature that blew up half the moon is teaching a class of middle school students while the government charges them with attempting to assassinate him to save the planet from destruction" as a premise. This is reflected in the sort of images one can find for anime, I feel, making the choice of imagine possibly quite expressive of the type of character.

 

[Idea]

Uber long posts stress me out, more so when I'm expected to match a 6+ paragraph post length. Sometimes they're fine and yeah sometimes I can go overboard with my post length. But someone in this thread mentioned that quality is sometimes better than quantity. I'm probably not an 'advanced' writer, my average can range between 2 and 6 paragraphs (depends on plot, music choice, muse, etc) but I like to think I'm a pretty great writer. I think it's absolutely ridiculous that people have to group writers together because they're "not good enough" for an advanced roleplay. Its roleplay, it should be fun, enjoyable. Feeling pressure to have a super duper long post with perfect grammar and everything isnt fun. Idk, I feel like some people take roleplaying way too seriously. Not to hate on anyone, at all, I get that some people wanna write with others who are more their level, I get that. I just feel that there shouldn't have to be boundaries to your writing just because you're at a slightly different level. I've found that writing with "advanced" rpers has actually improved my writing. So kudos to the advanced ppl out there for helping me develop!!

I think your misunderstanding, or at least many people who express opinions similar to the one you put here have the misunderstanding even if you specifically don't: People wanting to RP at different levels of detail/length is not a matter of "skill level", but a matter of different styles and mentalities. People who write more value different things in the writing from people who write less, and those values influence the length (everything else constant of course). A common example, is internal monologue or scenic descriptions. A writer who writes less will choose to be more concise and focus more on the plot and characters without diverging from the action. As such, they tend to consider a character that goes into any significant amount of internal monologue to be in poor form, since it doesn't advance the plot and others can't interact with it. When it comes to the action it's irrelevant. Likewise, they will do far less scenic descriptions, focusing only on what is immediately relevant to situate the characters and the current action.

A writer who writes more, however, is unlikely to be satisfied with this. They will have description to create ambience, they will expand writing to cover worldbuilding even if it's not relevant to the action, they will make internal monologue because the way the character process the world around them is just as important if not more than the input and output.

If someone says they want longer posts, this is what I believe is the real reason: They know they enjoy longer posts rather than shorter ones, and the more self-aware may know they enjoy longer posts more because those longer posts will naturally be far more likely to include all the details they want to read. It's not that they believe one type of writing is better. Every style has its way of being terrible writing and its ways of being great writing, but the criteria isn't the same. So someone who thinks in a way that works great for a given style would probably not do so well in another.

You are absolutely correct though, RPs should be fun and enjoyable, it's just that a masterpiece for some may be the equivalent of reading a summary or a shopping list for others, in the same way that a masterpiece for those others may be an irrelevant wall of text for the first.

 

[Murdergurl]

Long, super detailed forms and bios are just exhausting and more often than not drive me away. I've written them before and it's fine but it's like, when people have requirements for like 'u must provide an RP example' or 'you must have x amount of headcanons' it gets more stressful than fun to join a thread. I've found, since I started doing more 1x1 rps that a name, age, physical description and a brief overview of their personality works just as well. "Fleshed out" forms are not all they're cracked up to be. More often than not I usually forget the form and what I wrote and end up writing development as it comes. After all, how can I know every detail about a character that I've never written before??

Personally, I love to write and read long bios. At least if the info isn't a bunch of boring points like the color of their shoes. lol
As far as R examples,isn't that just as simple as copy/paste one of your recent works, or just save a couple favored pieces so that they are readily on hand. I don't think anyone expects you to write a fresh example on the spot. They just want to see your writing style.

Smut is not for everyone. I've never been too comfortable with RPing that stuff, or talking about that stuff in general but so many people I've rped with are almost obsessed with it and they get mad if you say you're uncomfortable. What's up with that???

Just don't join adult RP sites. Because 99% of the time, that's what people are looking for on those. Simple enough. lol

Uber long posts stress me out, more so when I'm expected to match a 6+ paragraph post length. Sometimes they're fine and yeah sometimes I can go overboard with my post length. But someone in this thread mentioned that quality is sometimes better than quantity. I'm probably not an 'advanced' writer, my average can range between 2 and 6 paragraphs (depends on plot, music choice, muse, etc) but I like to think I'm a pretty great writer. I think it's absolutely ridiculous that people have to group writers together because they're "not good enough" for an advanced roleplay. Its roleplay, it should be fun, enjoyable. Feeling pressure to have a super duper long post with perfect grammar and everything isnt fun. Idk, I feel like some people take roleplaying way too seriously. Not to hate on anyone, at all, I get that some people wanna write with others who are more their level, I get that. I just feel that there shouldn't have to be boundaries to your writing just because you're at a slightly different level. I've found that writing with "advanced" rpers has actually improved my writing. So kudos to the advanced ppl out there for helping me develop!!

People like to write with others that are willing (and happy) to reciprocate the amount and "quality" of narrative that they do. This is the reason that these requisites are put in place. How would you like to shell out a 6 paragraph response, only to be responded to by a handful of sentences that barely constitute the technical minimum of a paragraph? That would suck, right? Well, it also sucks for the other person when it happens to them. It's a lot of time and effort invested into a partner/group search by the proffering party, and I think it's completely understandable that they not want to waste their time gathering up people that are going to bog down their capacity for a fun time. All sorts of RPers congregate here, and the rub is finding those who compliment your style.

Personally, I think the idea that writing a large amount qualifies a writer as "advanced" is quite stupid. A person can write 1000 works of utter garbage. That doesn't speak at all to being an advanced writer. I've said this before, but I'll say it again: Word count does not equate to advanced writing.

 

[Murdergurl]

I'm not sure what you mean, I see a number of differences in the faces presented here, even if we ignore the hair. For instance, the two you say could almost be the same have different nose, chin and eye shapes and the color and style of their hair is different (even if admittedly the style isn't very different). Same goes for eye color. I think the only elements of the face here that aren't different are the eyebrows and skin shade. The actual details of the faces are very different, although yes there is a common form of representation. Yes, the nose is made with a simplistic three lines, but the way those are drawn and placed can convey something very different.

Now, as others before me have said and I apologize for pressing on the topic when maybe it was already resolved, there is of course no need for you to like them, and you may think the differences I pointed out are irrelevant or at least not sufficient. I also agree and know for a fact that there are a lot of extremely similar anime faces, something images of guys are especially guilty of as there isn't nearly the variety there is with female characters. However, I did want to point out those differences clearly are there even in the example you said was closest to identical.

Since I'm responding, I think it's only fair I add why I use and like my partners using anime faceclaims myself. The main reason is simple: I like looking at them. I just think they look good, they are aesthetically pleasing to my eye. I cannot say the same of most other types of faceclaims. Semi-realistic artwork is also good for me, but to a lesser extent. If someone is using a faceclaim, that means I'll have to see it. Logically, wanting that to be something I like seeing makes sense.

Another reason would be the fact the faceclaim acts as a filter of sorts: It's more likely someone who likes anime in general will be willing to use an anime faceclaim, whereas people who don't like it are less likely to agree to it. I watch and love a lot of anime and manga, and I'm quite aware that it inevitably influences my tastes and ideas. If the person doesn't like that style of things to begin with, we're not going to have a good time with one another.

Lastly, despite the name "faceclaims" the face isn't really the important part for me and I imagine most people. The focus is usually more on the general body, a representation of the character overall if you will. A more, for lack of a better word, "cartoony" medium is less constricted by realism in this regard, and anime in particular can be quite off the rails and imaginative, moreso than most media I mean. Even comic books would at least need some buildup from some normal character or be specifically aiming for a whacky story, before anyone would go something as crazy as "octopus creature that blew up half the moon is teaching a class of middle school students while the government charges them with attempting to assassinate him to save the planet from destruction" as a premise. This is reflected in the sort of images one can find for anime, I feel, making the choice of imagine possibly quite expressive of the type of character.

Well, as most of you can probably surmise, I am not an anime fan. Generally speaking, I don't care for most of it. That's not to say I haven't seen a few that I did like. Miyazaki films are something I have enjoyed in the past, and I did like the Vampire Hunter D:Bloodlust movie. Back in the 90's I liked the Alita Battle Angel anime, and was pretty happy with the live-action movie adaptation. But for the most part, I really dislike a lot of anime. The cliche tropes, the (usually) over-simplistic art style, and the monologues....omg the fucking monologues. I hate that. I also generally do not care for the "cartoony" break-away from realism. I don't mind a light-hearted narrative. But realism is definitely a must.

Anyhow, I get that others like anime. Obviously, a lot of you like it. I'd say it's one of the more prevalent themes on the site, and a strong element in the RP community overall. But I just don't care for it in a variety of ways, and faceclaims being the most disruptive. Because while I can totes avoid the anime themed RPs, it's a much more difficult thing to join RPs that did not seem to be host to that, and then 1/3 of the characters submitted are anime faceclaims. bleh
Jannah put it best, it totes breaks the immersion for me.

 

[Idea]

Well, as most of you can probably surmise, I am not an anime fan. Generally speaking, I don't care for most of it. That's not to say I haven't seen a few that I did like. Miyazaki films are something I have enjoyed in the past, and I did like the Vampire Hunter D:Bloodlust movie. Back in the 90's I liked the Alita Battle Angel anime, and was pretty happy with the live-action movie adaptation. But for the most part, I really dislike a lot of anime. The cliche tropes, the (usually) over-simplistic art style, and the monologues....omg the fucking monologues. I hate that. I also generally do not care for the "cartoony" break-away from realism. I don't mind a light-hearted narrative. But realism is definitely a must.

Anyhow, I get that others like anime. Obviously, a lot of you like it. I'd say it's one of the more prevalent themes on the site, and a strong element in the RP community overall. But I just don't care for it in a variety of ways, and faceclaims being the most disruptive. Because while I can totes avoid the anime themed RPs, it's a much more difficult thing to join RPs that did not seem to be host to that, and then 1/3 of the characters submitted are anime faceclaims. bleh
Jannah put it best, it totes breaks the immersion for me.

Fair enough, fair enough.

 

[Syntra]

I literally do not care about realism in RPs at all. I refuse to research stuff-- that's what I do for my academic articles and work in general and I am certainly not going to do it here. This is my place to be self-indulgent, which for me consists of writing about my characters kicking ass and having a romance so dramatic that it would make the Bronte sisters weep with envy. Not even ashamed, tbh.

 

[Melpomene]

Yesss I loved playing a husband and wife couple with my rp buddy, it was so much fun. My character - the wife really had her husband's back and did tons of scheming on his behalf, some of which he knew about and approved and other things she kept to herself. Middle aged couple love is just as good as teenage pining love.

I'd like to see more couples doing stuff in all media tbh I'm kind of sick of the "get the girl/guy" storylines. And if they are married it's always an infidelity storyline, I'm so done with it. Still playing out that slow burn romance in one rp I'm doing though. It's a trope that will never die.

Omg that honestly sounds like so much fun! I think there is a whole field of emotional drama people are missing if they don't delve into when couples are already together. It can be even more fluffy and sweet than when they are not, not to mention even more angst filled.

 

[Empress]

I haven't seen this on RPNation yet, but I really hate how people shame others for wanting to write OC x canon ships on other sites. I don't personally partake in those kinds of Roleplays, but I don't see anything wrong with them.

 

[BackSet]

My only problem is that I don't like romance and I don't like it when people (neither me nor anyone else) play canon characters.

Wait, that's two problems.

 

[Murdergurl]

My only problem is that I don't like romance and I don't like it when people (neither me nor anyone else) play canon characters.

Wait, that's two problems.

Romance. yuk. Yeah, I don't do the romance theme either. I'm not much of a romantic irl. So it's nothing I want to fabricate in an RP

 

[Jannah]

Romance. yuk. Yeah, I don't do the romance theme either. I'm not much of a romantic irl. So it's nothing I want to fabricate in an RP

I'm definitely an oddity in that, despite being Ace, I love romance in my RP's. Especially if it's star-crossed and/or forbidden love.

 

[AnnJam]

I'm definitely an oddity in that, despite being Ace, I love romance in my RP's. Especially if it's star-crossed and/or forbidden love.

one thing I have learned about RPN and romance is people are in one of three camps:

• I love it. GIVE IT TO ME NOW.
• I don't like it, BUUUUUT . . . [insert "some qualification that is required for romance to be in their roleplay" here]
• I HATE it.

So you're not such an oddity, I love romance too and I want it in all my roleplays! XD

 

[Murdergurl]

... Especially if it's star-crossed and/or forbidden love.

Two households, both alike in dignity,
In fair Verona, where we lay our scene,
From ancient grudge break to new mutiny,
Where civil blood makes civil hands unclean.
From forth the fatal loins of these two foes
A pair of star-cross'd lovers take their life;
Whose misadventur'd piteous overthrows
Doth with their death bury their parents' strife.

I think of this chorus every time I hear/read the word "star-crossed"

 

[Jannah]

Two households, both alike in dignity,
In fair Verona, where we lay our scene,
From ancient grudge break to new mutiny,
Where civil blood makes civil hands unclean.
From forth the fatal loins of these two foes
A pair of star-cross'd lovers take their life;
Whose misadventur'd piteous overthrows
Doth with their death bury their parents' strife.

I think of this chorus every time I hear/read the word "star-crossed"

I actually love Romeo and Juliet precisely because it uses the star-crossed lovers trope lol. I'm a huge sucker for it.

 

[Jannah]

one thing I have learned about RPN and romance is people are in one of three camps:

• I love it. GIVE IT TO ME NOW.
• I don't like it, BUUUUUT . . . [insert "some qualification that is required for romance to be in their roleplay" here]
• I HATE it.

So you're not such an oddity, I love romance too and I want it in all my roleplays! XD

I don't require it in all my RP's, but it is a nice thing to have when it happens. I like it to develop naturally.

 

[Murdergurl]

I actually love Romeo and Juliet precisely because it uses the star-crossed lovers trope lol. I'm a huge sucker for it.

I actually use little easter egg references to Shakespeare every now and again in my RP stuff. For example, one of my characters has a drone that follows her around. It is a Fortinbras model 4.0

 

[BackSet]

Here's a confession: I don't like Shakespeare. Like, at all. His works are all idiotic. Like the one where the guy was prophesized that he'd be king and he was too impatient to just wait around, then it was prophesized that some guys kids would take over his throne and he took that to mean that they'd kill him even though it could have easily meant that he'd give it up willingly. I mean, dude.

despite being Ace

Well, being Asexual and Aromantic are not intrinsically linked so it's possible to be one without being the other (which is not to say that people who are both Ace and Aro (like me) can't also like romance (not like me), I just figured I'd point that out).