Edythir
The Cold One
I have a history of being a bit of a whiner and a bit of a complainer, but you clicked on a post titled "Ravings of a madman" so i'm assuming you aren't expecting the lucidity or high critique, just a really, really, really frustrated person who has had the worst and horrid luck imaginable.
First off. Sincerely Fuck Romance. Just in general this is one of the biggest crutches and one of the worst habits in the world today and that extends into Roleplay big time. "Girls and boys can't be friends, only partners" and similar sentiments. I can't tell you how many times i wanted to set up a grand story before they say "Well and then i eventually i fall in love with you because the laws of the universe demand that if there is a man and a woman they will find a way to turns it into a romantic subplot which takes over the entire story" No one wants to just tell a good story or have interesting characters, it always has to be "And then they start dating"
Don't get me wrong, looking at my past posting records you can see that fluffy romance stories are my guilty pleasure, especially MxM. BUT. Romance doesn't have a place anywhere, if i am writing romance i don't expect a giant kaiju mecha fight. If i am writing a giant kaiju mecha fight, i don't expect romance. So why does Romance have to rear it's ugly head in whenever i try to set up any sort of story where there is more than just an endless row of sausages or a matriarchy of strong, independant woman who don't need no man.
Setting aside the "Can we have sex in it?" Which is the same answer as romance, No we cannot, buzz off. No one wants to even build a story based on a story, people just expect there to be points on a graph and then just an automatically generated route between the plots of interest. People look at where they want to be and don't bother to enjoy the trip there.
On a certain un-named website. And if you do know what website it is i expect you to not mention it for obvious reasons since that website is classified as 18+ and this one isn't. You can create a character. You set up that character, give them a name, age, characteristic, bio. Then you can list various interests of any kind, from Fave, Like, Maybe and No. I have custom made interests on that page. Yet people think that if they play the correct version of "Connect the dots" it will program me into playing with them. They just pick out a set of things that we both like and then just say "Let's do that" without any idea of how it would happen or what would tie it together.
Take this for example. Cake is good, Yes? Mashed Potatoes too? You like Ice Cream? Donuts? Yes i like all those things. What i don't like is putting those things into a pot and melt it into a stew because frankly that will be disgusting. People just want to "Do" things, not create a story or a scenario in which things happen. They don't want to bake a cake, they don't want to buy a cake, they want cake and cake they shall have.
I just want someone. ANYONE. who can appreciate a story for it's own merits, i just want someone who is as interested in the how and the why as much as the what. I just want someone who doesn't try to slide Romance into an RP like a bad faith christian slides the bible into proven science. Is that too much to ask? Someone with an ounce of creativity who doesn't just go for the lowest common denominator?
I mean, i get it, romance and especially the other really easy 18+ thing is like sugar in food. It makes it easy to eat, it makes it appreciable by a large number of people, it's junkfood and sometimes junkfood is good. But i would at least like to find one god damn person who wants to spend some time in the kitchen together making our own meal for once so we can properly enjoy it the best we can. I just want something of substance, something that doesn't taste like salt, fat and sugar. I just want something interesting that is not the same formula i have been writing since i was 12 writing stuff on a now deleted fanfiction.net account.
Alright. I just needed to scream into the void and put it somewhere. You clicked on a thread that said "The ravings of a madman" and what did you expect, Shakespeare? But you got through it, you madman.
First off. Sincerely Fuck Romance. Just in general this is one of the biggest crutches and one of the worst habits in the world today and that extends into Roleplay big time. "Girls and boys can't be friends, only partners" and similar sentiments. I can't tell you how many times i wanted to set up a grand story before they say "Well and then i eventually i fall in love with you because the laws of the universe demand that if there is a man and a woman they will find a way to turns it into a romantic subplot which takes over the entire story" No one wants to just tell a good story or have interesting characters, it always has to be "And then they start dating"
Don't get me wrong, looking at my past posting records you can see that fluffy romance stories are my guilty pleasure, especially MxM. BUT. Romance doesn't have a place anywhere, if i am writing romance i don't expect a giant kaiju mecha fight. If i am writing a giant kaiju mecha fight, i don't expect romance. So why does Romance have to rear it's ugly head in whenever i try to set up any sort of story where there is more than just an endless row of sausages or a matriarchy of strong, independant woman who don't need no man.
Setting aside the "Can we have sex in it?" Which is the same answer as romance, No we cannot, buzz off. No one wants to even build a story based on a story, people just expect there to be points on a graph and then just an automatically generated route between the plots of interest. People look at where they want to be and don't bother to enjoy the trip there.
On a certain un-named website. And if you do know what website it is i expect you to not mention it for obvious reasons since that website is classified as 18+ and this one isn't. You can create a character. You set up that character, give them a name, age, characteristic, bio. Then you can list various interests of any kind, from Fave, Like, Maybe and No. I have custom made interests on that page. Yet people think that if they play the correct version of "Connect the dots" it will program me into playing with them. They just pick out a set of things that we both like and then just say "Let's do that" without any idea of how it would happen or what would tie it together.
Take this for example. Cake is good, Yes? Mashed Potatoes too? You like Ice Cream? Donuts? Yes i like all those things. What i don't like is putting those things into a pot and melt it into a stew because frankly that will be disgusting. People just want to "Do" things, not create a story or a scenario in which things happen. They don't want to bake a cake, they don't want to buy a cake, they want cake and cake they shall have.
I just want someone. ANYONE. who can appreciate a story for it's own merits, i just want someone who is as interested in the how and the why as much as the what. I just want someone who doesn't try to slide Romance into an RP like a bad faith christian slides the bible into proven science. Is that too much to ask? Someone with an ounce of creativity who doesn't just go for the lowest common denominator?
I mean, i get it, romance and especially the other really easy 18+ thing is like sugar in food. It makes it easy to eat, it makes it appreciable by a large number of people, it's junkfood and sometimes junkfood is good. But i would at least like to find one god damn person who wants to spend some time in the kitchen together making our own meal for once so we can properly enjoy it the best we can. I just want something of substance, something that doesn't taste like salt, fat and sugar. I just want something interesting that is not the same formula i have been writing since i was 12 writing stuff on a now deleted fanfiction.net account.
Alright. I just needed to scream into the void and put it somewhere. You clicked on a thread that said "The ravings of a madman" and what did you expect, Shakespeare? But you got through it, you madman.