Chitchat Chat for hockey fans

[The Silent Z]

I like and agree with this list, especially for the hated active players.

As for retired, I'd definitely also add Matt Cooke the Penguin. VERY dirty player if you remember.

Appreciate it! And thought we likely agreed with the active players based off past talks lol. Tbh 3-5 I wasn’t sure which to put where it’s easily a three way tie but settled for that order.

Oh yeah I’m remembering him more and more. Some names escape from the past and some even now that still play, life has been crazy, but am recalling him more now. There was quite a few players I wanted to put on the list, but felt like my HM’s were getting out of control on the previous lists I’ve done lol and some honestly I could place on both lists tbh. (Example: Chris Pronger; If not for the role he played on those Ducks teams and admittedly he was pretty good, I’d have him purely on this side of the lists and not the other at all.) Corey Perry is another I about put in the top five, I could due to his clutch moments with the Ducks amongst others and skillfully offensive power forward game over the years place him the other list and then here as well due to his equally dirty play.

Lindstrom I was going to add in the Forsberg/Brodeur category of dislike but held off to limit the HM potential haha.

As for your other lists, I really like 'em! Cool ideas! Gotta say I'm surprised with PK as the top pick for your favorite defenseman, but I see your reasoning.

I dislike him a ton because he's a dirty dirty player on the ice, but there's no denying he's all class off the ice, which is funny because he's so scummy and easy to hate on the ice.

Appreciate it! Yeah, I know PK is definitely that player that can be quite the player and worthy of hate on the ice. But his play outside of that can be fun to watch especially during his Preds run with Weber. Plus his off ice class and his times on ESPN appearing as a analyst showed he seems like a fun, cool dude. But as for top pick for favorite defenseman, yeah it was kinda tough cause I’ve also been a longtime Karlsson fan. Essentially could be a tie between the two. If Weber was a guarantee to keep playing or a guarantee to retire, I’d have him on one of the two lists between Active/Retired favorites at that position and pretty high on the active list right up there with PK & EK.

But I agree, it’s funny how polar opposite he can be from one to the other haha.

 

[The Silent Z]

I don’t usually, but am thinking of making NHL 2022/2023 season predictions based off current rosters and injuries, etc. (Going by Division & not league standings)

Then see just how far off I’ll be after the regular season is over. Haha

 

[Edric Blight]

I don’t usually, but am thinking of making NHL 2022/2023 season predictions based off current rosters and injuries, etc. (Going by Division & not league standings)

Then see just how far off I’ll be after the regular season is over. Haha

That'd be lit.

Also I must apologize for the lack of responses, I've been quite busy. Sorry.

 

[The Silent Z]

That'd be lit.

Also I must apologize for the lack of responses, I've been quite busy. Sorry.

No worries. Work and other matters have me pretty tired lately, so haven’t been on for too long myself.

 

[Edric Blight]

No worries. Work and other matters have me pretty tired lately, so haven’t been on for too long myself.

Thank you for understanding.

And yea I feel you I just got caught up with a ton of stuff so I only had time to read your post and lists, not necessarily respond.

 

[The Silent Z]

Thank you for understanding.

And yea I feel you I just got caught up with a ton of stuff so I only had time to read your post and lists, not necessarily respond.

No problem. Understandable for sure.

Nice on the catch up.

 

[Edric Blight]

No problem. Understandable for sure.

Nice on the catch up.

Thanks bro.

 

[The Silent Z]

Atlantic Division:
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1. Toronto Maple Leafs
2. Tampa Bay Lightning
3. Ottawa Senators
4. Florida Panthers
5. Buffalo Sabres
6. Detroit Red Wings
7. Boston Bruins
8. Montreal Canadiens

Metropolitan Division:
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1. New York Rangers
2. Carolina Hurricanes
3. Columbus Blue Jackets
4. New York Islanders
5. Pittsburgh Penguins
6. Washington Capitals
7. Philadelphia Flyers
8. New Jersey Devils

Central Division:
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1. Colorado Avalanche
2. Nashville Predators
3. Minnesota Wild
4. Winnipeg Jets
5. St. Louis Blues
6. Dallas Stars
7. Chicago Blackhawks
8. Arizona Coyotes


Pacific Division:
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1. Calgary Flames
2. Los Angeles Kings
3. Edmonton Oilers
4. Vancouver Canucks
5. Anaheim Ducks
6. Vegas Golden Knights
7. Seattle Kraken
8. San Jose Sharks

(Just a few notes here-)


• Blues losses of Husso & Perron lead me to believe they will still be good just not as good. But I don’t think Griess at this stage of his career can do what Husso did for the blues in relief of Binnington. Beast-Mode has gone to Detroit and Griess might be ok, but doubtful he’ll be as good as the departing net minder. Perron, glue guy and key vet from that cup team, tough loss. Not sure who can fill that role or what young guy steps up though maybe I’m forgetting a new acquisition? There for I think they will struggle at times and miss out on the playoffs even if only by a slim margin. (Above .500 for sure. Thinking of last years VGK team and that kind of narrow miss on the playoffs.)

• Dallas, The Stars loss of Klingberg and the question of some of their key and highly paid vets bouncing back along with some other concerns…. I think they will narrowly miss out on the playoffs and finish behind the Blues in the West. I’m not sure Marchment repeats that kind of season this year and Miller might be ok, but he isn’t quite Klingberg imo.

• Bruins, Caps & Penguins… Perhaps it’s my bias against them and desire to see them fail, but in all reality they are older teams with depth concerns amidst the injuries to key guys that will miss a fair bit of time. Pens will be the best of the three cause that core with Petry added, Rust, Guentzel & Kappenan still there will not go down easily. But I don’t see them making the playoffs, too much reliance on the health of aging veterans like Sid, Malkin and Letang. While the Bruins I dare say might struggle to finish ahead of Philly & Montreal this season….. Yea, I’m going to risk it and make that take. Caps, Ovi or bust… Darcy might help the net minding when healthy, but not sold on that team beyond Ovi & Kuemper.

• Vegas, they can fit the Pens/Bruins/Caps for me bid wise. But really…. Those losses in the off-season plus injuries and despite their knack for finding money they don’t have for players they still manage to sign to fill the roster on bargain esque deals… I don’t see them being that good this year. Stone coming back from hip surgery or back? Whatever it was and Eichel is a question mark for if he’s going to be ready to go at the old Eichel level? Sorry VGK fans but those Knights are getting too much on the rating and playoff chances imo. Plus I just know what to expect in goal, the rookie could be ok to maybe pretty good, but he’s young and unproven for a full season as the potential starter. Hill just acquired might help, but he’s not the full time option just a pretty good backup imo (nothing wrong with that either. Just asking too much to save VGK) while the other guy is inured in addition to the big loss of Lehner who when healthy is pretty good. The hot dog eating, coke and beer drinking, loveable Kessel isn’t saving the Knights either imo. A nice addition but not enough…

• I’d say 3-6 might be pretty close in the Atlantic, Florida’s depth I’m just not sold on. But Tkachuk should be good and bring some fight, edge and grit to this team that sorely needed it last year in the playoffs. I’m a Sabres & Senators believer and optimist this year and going forward. Detroit…. Wow, they will be interesting and pretty good for a young team this year. Also, I’m not betting against Beast-Mode Husso… That dude just tortured my teams last year, each time I watched them play against him. While overall he was just really good in the regular season regardless of his play against a few teams.

• Seattle won’t be great, they won’t make the playoffs or even be that close for the most part. But I really like their moves especially Bjorkstrand who’s game I really like and have been a fan of over the years. Noticeable improvement in year two.

• I like what they have added but a young team still with questions marks. I’m not sold on Ruff as the coach for this team and wasn’t last year either especially when watching them play. Some depth concerns at forward if injuries start to hit again. Goalie situation might be ok, but again, health and consistency is the key for them. I like the Hughes Brothers but Jack hopefully can stay healthy and play like he did when healthy last year and overall get back to form and progress. Luke (I think that is the right brother… Man there are quite a few in the NHL now haha) all the Hughes bros seem to be just plain awesome when healthy though, likely won’t be on the roster or see much time on the nhl level but bright future imo. I just can’t place the Devils too high right now even if I do like what they have on paper for a young team.

• I’ve got concerns with the Wild. Gustafson is a young goalie and could be good going forward, but idk what to expect yet this year from him. Fleury is one of the best ever goalies and is still pretty good, but…. He is getting up there in age and had a fair bit of time off splitting with Talbot, I don’t want to see it happen or even say it as a possibility, but I’m not sure how much we can really expect from him this year realistically with the Wild. Who might be asking too much of him pending on how they use him and for how many games with Gustafson as the likely backup. We lost Fiala, Rossi may or may not be NHL ready and able to step up like that in his potential first full season in the NHL. Boldy likely could but again young and asking alot. Sam Steel might be a nice depth add who could surprise with a nice season in Minnesota but overall not sure yet if he can help produce some of the numbers we lost from Fiala and his big year last season. In the end, I’ve just got a gut feeling the Wild and their cap issues will be in for a tough season but still find a way into the playoff picture. Kirill is a real deal thrill and makes those around him that much better, just see how Zuccarello has turned back the clock a bit and found a incredible chemistry with Kaprizov since the kids arrival. So the Wild should be ok but it won’t be easy or pretty to watch at times.

• San Jose Sharks… I just don’t know. Some very quality vets that can still produce, some good younger players that will contribute nicely and a goalie ive been very much a fan of and hate the fact the Wild chose to trade him…. But they need to just fully commit to a rebuild imo. It’s a tough decision I’m sure and know, but I can’t see them being a playoff team even with their quality players that can be really good when on their game. Also, Karlsson I’m a longtime fan of but he’s not prime EK anymore as much as I hate to say it, maybe he can bounce back and turn the clock back a little but no guarantees. Ferraro is good, but a younger defenseman with limited depth behind him imo. Those two vets EK & Vlasic will need to bounce back in a big way to change the Sharks fortune on the blue line and to remain competitive. No doubts they will compete and make it hard on teams they play but just not a bright outlook on their season as a whole.

 

[The Silent Z]

Fixed a few typos from the predictions & notes post but looks like a typo here or there might still be left. (Devils at the start of the Notes being one I’ve noticed. It was there I could have sworn when writing it, but yeah…. It’s gone now haha. Apologies now for any tough reads and clarity of what was meant in the notes)

(A couple added notes I left off-)

Columbus Blue Jackets- I’m not sold on Brad Larsen as coach. Some depth concerns if injuries occur since some key depth pieces are pretty young and just debuted last year but should really good moving forward. I’m definitely not sold on Korpisalo as the running mate for Merzilkins, unless he bounces back and plays strong I’d rather see the young Tarasov replace him as the backup and running mate for EM.

Anaheim Ducks- I love the future here. I really like the potential underdog story for this season as potentially seen in the standings post being ahead of VGK. But my bias towards them as my first love/team growing up and longtime fan in general, I tried to hold off going overboard here lol. But they will be fun and interesting to watch. Gibson if he stays I think will like the addition of Klingberg & Kuhlikov to the young core of defenseman playing in front of him he’s been behind prior to the vet additions. I predict a bounce back to form for Gibson after kind of a off year.

New York Islanders- I’m staying optimistic with them and I do think CBJ & the Isles will be neck and neck this year in the standings. Lou, is my biggest concern and likely I’m not alone here. Or maybe I am? Idk. But I’m positive on their season outlook and where they will finish. Here’s to Palm playing lights out all year long, playing like he finished out last year. Parise, I’d bet on a good year from him plenty of potential for bounce back season for many on this team and Romanov should be a nice young addition to the blue line.

Vancouver Canucks- Bruce. A full year with Bruce is a bet I’ll take even though I’m not really a gambling man. That roster is too good imo to not be good and playoff bound. And it’s Bruce, who’s betting against that guy? They played great once he took over and now he’s going to have a full year with them.

Winnipeg Jets- Bones, I’ll say Bowness and his effect on the team that on paper is pretty good with one of the best goalies in the league in net. No reason to think they won’t be competitive and playoff capable of healthy. Though my biggest concern…. Who’s backing Hellebuyck now that Comrie is Buffalo bound? EC was huge for them last year when Connor was out.

Nashville Predators- I really like what they did this off-season. Always a very hard team to beat when healthy. Nino & Lankenan will be nice adds especially if KL can bounce back with the Preds after a tough season in Chicago last year. Probably forgetting something here with their off-season, but I like this teams chances tbh. Maybe not Cup finals bound, but should be really good.

Other notes could come later. But for now these are some added notes I left off the initial post.

 

[Edric Blight]

Ah cool! I assume these are your predictions for the standings next season? Interesting predictions! Pretty solid, I like a lot of what I see tbh.

For the Atlantic Division, I can't argue with that. The Leafs are a great regular season team. Of course, I do see them exiting in the first round once again. They will probably crumble due to their goal tending which is not solid no matter what delusional Leafs fans try to have you believe. As for Tampa, yea, they're still good, but I don't see another cup win for them. It's the Avs turn now I guess for the two peat lol. Definitely like the Sens ranking. Same with the Panthers. I see Florida crumbling gradually each year now. They lost out on their chance at a cup run. Now they will suck for a few years and never have the great success in the regular season they had the previous season.

I sure hope it ain't so for the Metro with the Rangers taking 1st lol. But bias aside, I honestly don't see the Rangers getting first in the division. They got slightly worse during the off season I feel. That's just me tho. I see the Canes getting first in the Metro in the end tbh, which sucks too. I hate all the Metro teams but Columbus lol. As for CBJ, hey who knows? Maybe! They're supposed to be good this year! Let's see what happens! As for my Isles, God I sure hope so, I'd love to at least squeak in the fourth position and make the playoffs! I sadly see us maybe a little lower, but who knows maybe we have a great season. Very valid take on the Isles there. The rest of the Metro, I can't complain. I think 7th and 8th are gonna be a toss up between Philly and New Jersey between who is worse lmao. They're both gonna suck HARD next season lol.

Central Division, yes. I 10000% see the Avs taking first in the division once again (by a landslide too) and I honestly see them making a very serious run at the cup again, maybe making the finals and winning it all. Also wow, the Preds that high? Interesting. I might put the Wild above them tbh. As for the Blues, valid. I think they got worse in the off season tbh. The rest of the central I can't complain. Pretty logical rankings there from you I think. I think maybe Arizona and Chicago now compete for worse in the Central Division.

The good ol' Pacific Division. There's a lot to unpack here with the teams in this division. As for the Flames taking first in the division, I sadly am gonna have to disagree with you. While my bias WANTS the Flames to be first in the division, I just don't see them making it to first in the Pacific with getting rid of key pieces like Johnny Gaudreau and Matthew Tkachuk. As much as I hate the Oilers and think they will get absolutely thrashed in the playoffs with the HIGHLY over rated Jack Campbell in goal, they might possibly take first in the Pacific for the regular season. Maybe the Flames are second, might be a toss up with the Kings tbh. Vancouver at the number 4 spot seems perfect to me tbh. I see them having a very real chance at making the playoffs too. As for the Knights, those damn hated Golden Knights, I see them at 5, possibly 6 like you said. Idk about the Ducks, that's a toss up for me. Also I think it's a hit or miss with spots 7 and 8. I think it could be either or the Kraken or Sharks at those 7 and 8 spots in the Pacific Division.

Overall, pretty solid list and justifications below for some of your rankings. I like it a lot. Cool stuff. I thought I'd add my little thoughts about your rankings. Looks like we have little disagreement. I like this list, it's logical and UNBIASED! You don't find unbiased lists on the internet at all anymore lol. People let their emotions decide too much lol.

 

[The Silent Z]

Ah cool! I assume these are your predictions for the standings next season? Interesting predictions! Pretty solid, I like a lot of what I see tbh.

For the Atlantic Division, I can't argue with that. The Leafs are a great regular season team. Of course, I do see them exiting in the first round once again. They will probably crumble due to their goal tending which is not solid no matter what delusional Leafs fans try to have you believe. As for Tampa, yea, they're still good, but I don't see another cup win for them. It's the Avs turn now I guess for the two peat lol. Definitely like the Sens ranking. Same with the Panthers. I see Florida crumbling gradually each year now. They lost out on their chance at a cup run. Now they will suck for a few years and never have the great success in the regular season they had the previous season.

I sure hope it ain't so for the Metro with the Rangers taking 1st lol. But bias aside, I honestly don't see the Rangers getting first in the division. They got slightly worse during the off season I feel. That's just me tho. I see the Canes getting first in the Metro in the end tbh, which sucks too. I hate all the Metro teams but Columbus lol. As for CBJ, hey who knows? Maybe! They're supposed to be good this year! Let's see what happens! As for my Isles, God I sure hope so, I'd love to at least squeak in the fourth position and make the playoffs! I sadly see us maybe a little lower, but who knows maybe we have a great season. Very valid take on the Isles there. The rest of the Metro, I can't complain. I think 7th and 8th are gonna be a toss up between Philly and New Jersey between who is worse lmao. They're both gonna suck HARD next season lol.

Central Division, yes. I 10000% see the Avs taking first in the division once again (by a landslide too) and I honestly see them making a very serious run at the cup again, maybe making the finals and winning it all. Also wow, the Preds that high? Interesting. I might put the Wild above them tbh. As for the Blues, valid. I think they got worse in the off season tbh. The rest of the central I can't complain. Pretty logical rankings there from you I think. I think maybe Arizona and Chicago now compete for worse in the Central Division.

The good ol' Pacific Division. There's a lot to unpack here with the teams in this division. As for the Flames taking first in the division, I sadly am gonna have to disagree with you. While my bias WANTS the Flames to be first in the division, I just don't see them making it to first in the Pacific with getting rid of key pieces like Johnny Gaudreau and Matthew Tkachuk. As much as I hate the Oilers and think they will get absolutely thrashed in the playoffs with the HIGHLY over rated Jack Campbell in goal, they might possibly take first in the Pacific for the regular season. Maybe the Flames are second, might be a toss up with the Kings tbh. Vancouver at the number 4 spot seems perfect to me tbh. I see them having a very real chance at making the playoffs too. As for the Knights, those damn hated Golden Knights, I see them at 5, possibly 6 like you said. Idk about the Ducks, that's a toss up for me. Also I think it's a hit or miss with spots 7 and 8. I think it could be either or the Kraken or Sharks at those 7 and 8 spots in the Pacific Division.

Overall, pretty solid list and justifications below for some of your rankings. I like it a lot. Cool stuff. I thought I'd add my little thoughts about your rankings. Looks like we have little disagreement. I like this list, it's logical and UNBIASED! You don't find unbiased lists on the internet at all anymore lol. People let their emotions decide too much lol.

Appreciated! And yes, these will be my Predictions for the standings this season. Mixed in some unexpected and not likely widely agreed upon picks with some unbiased views and fairly likely predictions. Though some bias slipped through but minimal as possible from me with some added notes to balance out.

Agreed. I don’t see the Maple Leafs getting out of the first round until they prove it. But regular season wise, the team will likely finish high. It’s unlikely Marner & Mathews will fall off a cliff this season lol, tough to bet against them failing too badly least for me. Tampa, yeah, I don’t think they care one way or the other about finishing high in the regular season as long as they make the playoffs. But they should still be good and annoying as always. Not a cup favorite imo but others I know will disagree hard on that thought. Also yeah, the Sen’s spot felt right imo even if some will say it’s optimistic and a bit high. Florida I kind of agree, I see them gradually declining in the standings. I don’t get what others see in their depth and team for this year, but maybe I’m in the minority there. I’m also not sure Sergei is a good option as the full time starter in net. Still good. But maybe it’s time to find his Cam Talbot/Fleury kind of partner imo. Maybe the young Knight they’ve got in their system? Idk. But I think it’s time to find that kind of partner for their main goalie.

Oh? I’m not rotting for them by any means. But watching Trocheck play, he should be a good addition. I think Canes will miss Trocheck & Nino imo more then Rangers will miss Copp. (I’m sure I’ve forgotten a move or two with these two teams. But if the young guns can gradually progress, I think Rags over Canes as a early prediction though it’s not a big difference in record/points imho) But fair there it’s a tough battle for first between them in the Metro. Yeah a bit optimistic and a bit going by the moves yet still have my concerns as mentioned in a separate post. Yeah haha, hopefully they can though as mentioned in the post ther came after the predictions, Lou concerns me haha. As for Philly & NJD fair. I’m betting on Tortz though to make some kind of difference and definitely more of a impact then Ruff on his team. But still that’s fair. Philly isn’t playoff bound that’s for sure.

Sadly as someone that’s never been a AV’s fan. It’s true. They should be really, really good and that core is too strong not to make it tough for others to eliminate them come playoff time. And yeah haha, I’m high on the Preds right now, one of my expected picks and one I don’t see others agreeing with but one I’m going to take a high & positive prediction on this year. I could be forgetting someone, but don’t recall any notable losses that will make a big difference while I like the upgrade potential with KL replacing Rittich as Saros’s back up, now he just needs to have a bounce back in Nashville. Nino, I’m not the biggest fan of despite how it might look but I don’t hate him or his game either should be at the very least a nice supporting role forward for the Preds. (Although, their coach mildly concerned about as the HC) Fair with the Wild tbh. I wanted to place them higher but this gut feeling and some of our losses compared to what we added… I just can’t go higher for me personally though I’d want it to happen and won’t mind being wrong there haha. Our depth also is a bit concerning in some spots offensively atleast and maybe some defensively. I was going back and forth on the Yotes and Blackhawks tbh, on one hand Chicago still has Kane and some other vets even if Toews isn’t as good as he once was and Mrazek in net doesn’t exacty scream upgrade or high quality net minding, I figured the first part of the year will likely start off better then the Yotes if only cause of Kane. Though I’m sure he will be moved along with Toews by the deadline. I’d be surprised if one or both weren’t moved by then. Yotes menawhile, they finished strong last year least in quality of play imo, but idk who’s going to bring the consistency on offense and goal scoring for them this year. So definitely a toss up there.


That’s fair haha. A slight bias from me though still a little unbiased cause I think Huberdeau should be a nice replacement to Johnny Gaudreau. Tkachuk is the biggest loss for me with the Flames, he brings a different element that we will miss besides the point production. Kadri I’m optimistic about production wise starting out in Calgary but not long term. Plus his style of play is very different then Tkachuk though should be able to help with some of the points production lost with MT, agitator extraordinaire haha and regular fighter/PB visitor on the team. (Not that Kadri doesn’t have his fair share of PB minutes and agitating in his own right) But yeah fair assessment there though. I think Flames will finish high but burn out come playoff time. Oilers, fair take I’m kinda betting against Campbell although I think he’s a upgrade in net, I don’t think he’s going to be as good as some might project. Kings, is one pick I think will fit the unexpected take or disagreed with take in my predictions least quite possibly could. The way they played the Oilers last year and adding Fiala I think could make them a more competitive team come playoff time then both Calgary and Edmonton, though I’d love to see one of my teams actually get it done in the playoffs haha. I’m also perhaps betting a bit too high on Quick & Kopitar doing what they do or in Quick’s case surprisingly still do from time to time at this tage of his career. Petersen as the back up or perhaps starter? Idk about yet. Decent goalie but uncertain what he will do this year. Fair there. Ducks fit the optimistic side with where I see them finishing but I do like the team regardless s a decent squad that should be better then last year. VGK, could finish fifth for sure, but yeah even with my bias I couldn’t justify going lower then 6th and plus making the case for Ducks finishing ahead of them even if it’s close would be even tougher and greater on the biased nature there being fairly called out haha. Agreed on the Sharks/Kraken it’s a toss up. I am just betting on the Bjorkstrand addition more then what I’ve seen the Sharks do this off-season. Also, you would be a better judge of Quinn as a coach then I would tbh. As someone that lives out west and before the Espn+ addition late last season, I can’t say I’ve seen much eastern conference games these past few years and when I have it wasn’t too often the Rangers I saw when Quinn was coach and even since.

That’s more then fair haha. Also yeah, a little disagreement here and there but hey that’s the cool part in sports. Plenty of different opinions and cool to see when they can be discussed with some unbiased and logical assessments/opinions haha. You are right about the rarity of that these days lol and it can be seen in almost all aspects of life these days sadly enough. More emotions then common ground, level headed and unbiased/open minded views and taking in of information and facts. I’ll admit some bias slipped through but for the most part I definitely tried to stay unbiased and logical based with these predictions. But getting back to the hockey side of things, it’s appreciated again and thanks! This was a fun little predictions maker. And discussion too that has followed.

 

[Edric Blight]

Of course. That's fair. Very classy of you to admit that some personal biases sneaked in. Luckily maybe aside from the Flames, it was hard to tell. Like I said, solid solid list here. : )

Hell yea, those Leafs need to prove it. Basically the same old squad minus the goaltending which has either gotten worse or not changed at all (again, I think Jack Campbell is HIGHLY over rated). Same coach (Keefe needs to go) same GM. Same old Leafs who suck ass in the playoffs and get booted in the first round. I'm all here for it tho! : ) Agreed with the rest. And yea Spencer Knight is the Panthers back up goalie. I think eventually he surpasses Bob for starter as Sorokin eventually did with Varly.

Oh don't worry at all, I know it doesn't mean you're rooting for the Rangers lol (and even if you were it would be ok). I understand this is a list and a prediction of the standings based on what you have seen. Makes sense tho and I see what you mean there. The. Rangers certainly. will miss Copp, he was great for them. Great add for the Red Wings tho along with Husso in net. And good point, I totally didn't think of that. Torts will definitely make more of an impact on his team than will Lindy Ruff. Devs last makes a lot of sense now.

Yea it's gonna suck for you as someone who doesn't really like the Avs. They're really good and they're gonna be real good for a while it. seems. Fair enough on your points and feelings about both the Preds and the Wild. As for Chicago, looks like Kane and possibly Toews wanna go. I see the Blackhawks tanking for Connor Bedard in the 2023 draft lol.

Fair point. I probably shouldn't discredit Calgary's addition of Hubby as much as I do. He could potentially be a great replacement for Johnny Hockey there in Calgary. Totally forgot about Kadri coming in too. For at least this and next year, that should be a good and fun duo to watch. Also ngl kinda forgot about the Kings adding Fiala. Big acquisition that will do well for them in LA. Quick is declining tho so yea, maybe Cal gets the starter spot. Also yea for the Oilers, as over rated as I think Campbell is, he is 100% an upgrade in net for Edmonton. But boo Oilers man, not a fan. Not a hater but not a fan. They do have an annoying fan base too.

But yea, all in all, a little respectful disagreement isn't bad at all. I liked your list and of course, at the end of the day, it's your opinion. Not my or anybody's place to try to force you to change it! : ) And yea, I liked the neat little discussion that stemmed from it. W predictions there from you, I gotta say.

 

[The Silent Z]

Of course. That's fair. Very classy of you to admit that some personal biases sneaked in. Luckily maybe aside from the Flames, it was hard to tell. Like I said, solid solid list here. : )

Hell yea, those Leafs need to prove it. Basically the same old squad minus the goaltending which has either gotten worse or not changed at all (again, I think Jack Campbell is HIGHLY over rated). Same coach (Keefe needs to go) same GM. Same old Leafs who suck ass in the playoffs and get booted in the first round. I'm all here for it tho! : ) Agreed with the rest. And yea Spencer Knight is the Panthers back up goalie. I think eventually he surpasses Bob for starter as Sorokin eventually did with Varly.

Oh don't worry at all, I know it doesn't mean you're rooting for the Rangers lol (and even if you were it would be ok). I understand this is a list and a prediction of the standings based on what you have seen. Makes sense tho and I see what you mean there. The. Rangers certainly. will miss Copp, he was great for them. Great add for the Red Wings tho along with Husso in net. And good point, I totally didn't think of that. Torts will definitely make more of an impact on his team than will Lindy Ruff. Devs last makes a lot of sense now.

Yea it's gonna suck for you as someone who doesn't really like the Avs. They're really good and they're gonna be real good for a while it. seems. Fair enough on your points and feelings about both the Preds and the Wild. As for Chicago, looks like Kane and possibly Toews wanna go. I see the Blackhawks tanking for Connor Bedard in the 2023 draft lol.

Fair point. I probably shouldn't discredit Calgary's addition of Hubby as much as I do. He could potentially be a great replacement for Johnny Hockey there in Calgary. Totally forgot about Kadri coming in too. For at least this and next year, that should be a good and fun duo to watch. Also ngl kinda forgot about the Kings adding Fiala. Big acquisition that will do well for them in LA. Quick is declining tho so yea, maybe Cal gets the starter spot. Also yea for the Oilers, as over rated as I think Campbell is, he is 100% an upgrade in net for Edmonton. But boo Oilers man, not a fan. Not a hater but not a fan. They do have an annoying fan base too.

But yea, all in all, a little respectful disagreement isn't bad at all. I liked your list and of course, at the end of the day, it's your opinion. Not my or anybody's place to try to force you to change it! : ) And yea, I liked the neat little discussion that stemmed from it. W predictions there from you, I gotta say.

Appreciated! Yeah, Calgary is pretty much the most showing there. Yeah, those Leafs have a lot of prove playoff wise and some key needs for changing going unmade. I think they are betting high on the goalie coach or someone there coach wise that was there in Pittsburgh and now with the Leafs, who apparently was with Murray during his big run there on those cup teams to help turn him back into Penguins era form after a down run in Ottawa. (Least from the rumblings I’ve heard about that Murray to Toronto move) I’m not sure it’s going to change much or be a improvement over Campbell. But either way, no issues with Leafs falling out and a team like Ottawa overtakes them in the playoffs or has a deeper run overall in any level.

Oh cool. I was thinking that was his name, but the Panthers games I saw were always Bob in net. So was going off what I recall seeing in BAP quite consistently with the Panthers and their back up goalie situation. Makes sense though, Knight taking over for Bob like Sorokin for Varly.

Oh yeah and cool lol. I never did like those Rangers, personally never was a Messier fan, or too many Rangers over the years aside from Rick Nash and that fandom was far before his Rangers run. Haha. Honestly, I forgot Vatrano and Strome on the departures list for NYR, not sure why cause I knew they left for Anaheim but ah well. Decent losses for sure. Copp probably still remains as the biggest loss I can think of for them. But agreed, very nice pickup for Detroit with Copp and of course, Husso. If Max Pacreotty (name misspelled) But, if he was healthy to start the year and stayed relatively healthy and the normal MP production he can bring continues in Carolina, I’d place the Canes in first with those predictions. Stasny should be a quiet, but decent veteran depth piece as well. But yeah, Tortz factor should be more noticeable I’d agree.

Yeah, it’s going to be rough. I can’t even say anything negative about their coach or Sakic as GM. Both are pretty damn good imo. At worst they take some time to find a Kadri replacement or someone already there who will step up for them and take that role/production but even that is minimal for the most part. Oh yeah, I’m sure they will be moved and Chicago will truly hit bottom even quicker then they will already. Beaded watch for sure with the Blackhawks.

Yeah, Huberdeau could be there for sure. I still don’t like the length of his contract, same as Kadri. But short term they should be interesting to watch. But yeah fair there with Calgary and the takes there. If anything I’m betting more on the goalie duo, blue like depth and Sutter if anything to hold the ship steady. Forward wise the Tkachuk departure and JG could definitely be felt and quick. I’ve no idea who even stands a chance of filling a portion of that Tkachuk role for the Flames that’s also already there on the roster.

Oh yeah, fair, I forgot a few additions and departures myself. Some I’m still realizing or about to realize myself. Kings will be interesting though this season. I heard Doughty might be extra motivated this season too after a snub, so who knows there haha. That dude is pretty damn competitive.

Oh agreed lol! Boo Oilers! Though to be fair, I’m a Oilers hater so that’s to be expected. Overall a really good team, I can’t deny that one. Draisaitl, Hyman and Nugent-Hopkins alongside McDavid won’t be sitting idle this season or falling as far as I can tell. But yeah, agreed on all counts there. Annoying fan base. Absolutely terrible goal horn.

Agreed here too. 100%

 

[Edric Blight]

Appreciated! Yeah, Calgary is pretty much the most showing there. Yeah, those Leafs have a lot of prove playoff wise and some key needs for changing going unmade. I think they are betting high on the goalie coach or someone there coach wise that was there in Pittsburgh and now with the Leafs, who apparently was with Murray during his big run there on those cup teams to help turn him back into Penguins era form after a down run in Ottawa. (Least from the rumblings I’ve heard about that Murray to Toronto move) I’m not sure it’s going to change much or be a improvement over Campbell. But either way, no issues with Leafs falling out and a team like Ottawa overtakes them in the playoffs or has a deeper run overall in any level.

Oh cool. I was thinking that was his name, but the Panthers games I saw were always Bob in net. So was going off what I recall seeing in BAP quite consistently with the Panthers and their back up goalie situation. Makes sense though, Knight taking over for Bob like Sorokin for Varly.

Oh yeah and cool lol. I never did like those Rangers, personally never was a Messier fan, or too many Rangers over the years aside from Rick Nash and that fandom was far before his Rangers run. Haha. Honestly, I forgot Vatrano and Strome on the departures list for NYR, not sure why cause I knew they left for Anaheim but ah well. Decent losses for sure. Copp probably still remains as the biggest loss I can think of for them. But agreed, very nice pickup for Detroit with Copp and of course, Husso. If Max Pacreotty (name misspelled) But, if he was healthy to start the year and stayed relatively healthy and the normal MP production he can bring continues in Carolina, I’d place the Canes in first with those predictions. Stasny should be a quiet, but decent veteran depth piece as well. But yeah, Tortz factor should be more noticeable I’d agree.

Yeah, it’s going to be rough. I can’t even say anything negative about their coach or Sakic as GM. Both are pretty damn good imo. At worst they take some time to find a Kadri replacement or someone already there who will step up for them and take that role/production but even that is minimal for the most part. Oh yeah, I’m sure they will be moved and Chicago will truly hit bottom even quicker then they will already. Beaded watch for sure with the Blackhawks.

Yeah, Huberdeau could be there for sure. I still don’t like the length of his contract, same as Kadri. But short term they should be interesting to watch. But yeah fair there with Calgary and the takes there. If anything I’m betting more on the goalie duo, blue like depth and Sutter if anything to hold the ship steady. Forward wise the Tkachuk departure and JG could definitely be felt and quick. I’ve no idea who even stands a chance of filling a portion of that Tkachuk role for the Flames that’s also already there on the roster.

Oh yeah, fair, I forgot a few additions and departures myself. Some I’m still realizing or about to realize myself. Kings will be interesting though this season. I heard Doughty might be extra motivated this season too after a snub, so who knows there haha. That dude is pretty damn competitive.

Oh agreed lol! Boo Oilers! Though to be fair, I’m a Oilers hater so that’s to be expected. Overall a really good team, I can’t deny that one. Draisaitl, Hyman and Nugent-Hopkins alongside McDavid won’t be sitting idle this season or falling as far as I can tell. But yeah, agreed on all counts there. Annoying fan base. Absolutely terrible goal horn.

Agreed here too. 100%

Agreed on that.

And yea boo Rangers man. Messier was a Ranger and Oiler (even more reason to not like him!). But yea Vatrano and Strome are gone from the Rags as well as Copp. I agree, Copp was their biggest trade deadline loss. Great addition for the Wings.

Agreed on that as well. Knight’s young so he’s still got time to develop, but he’s not half bad. Shows a lot of good potential for Florida.

Agreed on the rest there, and yea perfect way to describe Stasny for the Canes I think.

Yea Colorado management and coaching is excellent. But yea looks like Chicago is entering a huge re build phase for the next few years.

Exactly. The Hubby and Kadri contract deal LENGTH was the only thing I wasn’t a fan of. Over paid and might come back to bite Calgary in a few years tbh.

Yea Fiala was a beast in Minny. Now he’s gonna be great for LA.

Agreed. The Oilers have quite an annoying fan base and Holy Jesus- quite an AWFUL AWFUL goal horn and worse song….

 

[Edric Blight]

Adding onto the Oilers hate (lol), Nugent-Hopkins was such a flop of a first overall pick.

 

[The Silent Z]

Agreed on that.

And yea boo Rangers man. Messier was a Ranger and Oiler (even more reason to not like him!). But yea Vatrano and Strome are gone from the Rags as well as Copp. I agree, Copp was their biggest trade deadline loss. Great addition for the Wings.

Agreed on that as well. Knight’s young so he’s still got time to develop, but he’s not half bad. Shows a lot of good potential for Florida.

Agreed on the rest there, and yea perfect way to describe Stasny for the Canes I think.

Yea Colorado management and coaching is excellent. But yea looks like Chicago is entering a huge re build phase for the next few years.

Exactly. The Hubby and Kadri contract deal LENGTH was the only thing I wasn’t a fan of. Over paid and might come back to bite Calgary in a few years tbh.

Yea Fiala was a beast in Minny. Now he’s gonna be great for LA.

Agreed. The Oilers have quite an annoying fan base and Holy Jesus- quite an AWFUL AWFUL goal horn and worse song….

Yeah true. Oilers/Rangers a rough combo of teams to play for lol. And agreed

Agreed

Oh yeah, it’s a nightmare the longer it goes on. I agree 100% with Calgary’s contracts to Huberdeau & Kadri. If the Flames flop then I’m sure the Gm will be ousted.

Agreed with Fiala

Haha 100% there. Terrible for sure and yeah he was a flop and tbh, I find Nugent-Hopkins a tad annoying when I’ve seen Oilers games. Sometimes borders on extremely annoying/agitating.

Looking at some of the Oilers first picks this past decade or so, they’ve flopped and missed on some notable ones. Though 2012 wasn’t exactly the best first round draft that I can recall.

 

[Edric Blight]

Yeah true. Oilers/Rangers a rough combo of teams to play for lol. And agreed

Agreed

Oh yeah, it’s a nightmare the longer it goes on. I agree 100% with Calgary’s contracts to Huberdeau & Kadri. If the Flames flop then I’m sure the Gm will be ousted.

Agreed with Fiala

Haha 100% there. Terrible for sure and yeah he was a flop and tbh, I find Nugent-Hopkins a tad annoying when I’ve seen Oilers games. Sometimes borders on extremely annoying/agitating.

Looking at some of the Oilers first picks this past decade or so, they’ve flopped and missed on some notable ones. Though 2012 wasn’t exactly the best first round draft that I can recall.

Yep.

Only time will tell for the Flames.

Yes Nuge is just annoying lol.

Yea. All those first round picks (guys like McDavid and Nuge) but not much to show for it lol.

 

[The Silent Z]

Yep.

Only time will tell for the Flames.

Yes Nuge is just annoying lol.

Yea. All those first round picks (guys like McDavid and Nuge) but not much to show for it lol.

Definitely lol. Nugent-Hop sure is

True. I can’t really put my finger on the whys exactly outside of goalies and blue line maybe, but overall not the whole factor in their disappointment and lack of accomplishment with those guys in Edmonton. McDavid & Draisaitl alone would be game changers much less all those other first round picks.

 

[The Silent Z]

Wow, now the Canucks hand out a 7 year contract in the 56 Mil range from what I saw to JT Miller. From trade rumors to him staying to a long term contract that won’t age well imo. Not surprised by him staying in Vancouver. But am surprised by the contract.

 

[Edric Blight]

Wow, now the Canucks hand out a 7 year contract in the 56 Mil range from what I saw to JT Miller. From trade rumors to him staying to a long term contract that won’t age well imo. Not surprised by him staying in Vancouver. But am surprised by the contract.

I SAW! W for the Nucks!

 

[Edric Blight]

Lotta fans of opposing teams like the Isles sad they didn't pick him up lol.

 

[The Silent Z]

I SAW! W for the Nucks!

Yeah, nice keep by the Nucks. Definitely a solid player and key part of the current roster. The first few years should be good there atleast.

Lotta fans of opposing teams like the Isles sad they didn't pick him up lol.

Yeah lol. Though he’s definitely had his best run with the Canucks so good move there.

 

[Edric Blight]

Yeah, nice keep by the Nucks. Definitely a solid player and key part of the current roster. The first few years should be good there atleast.


Yeah lol. Though he’s definitely had his best run with the Canucks so good move there.

Yea that was a good move to keep him for the Nucks. I was hoping they wouldn't let him go to some stupid team.

For sure.

 

[The Silent Z]

Yea that was a good move to keep him for the Nucks. I was hoping they wouldn't let him go to some stupid team.

For sure.

Not sure what all teams were interested. Not sure if I heard anyone in specific during those rumors. But I agree, glad they didn’t let him go to one of the lesser desirable options in the league. Though money wise they couldn’t, I wouldn’t have been surprised if Vegas or somebody like that found a way to get him. But either way, glad he’s sticking around Vancouver definitely keeps the odds looking good for the Canucks this season playoff wise.

 

[Edric Blight]

Not sure what all teams were interested. Not sure if I heard anyone in specific during those rumors. But I agree, glad they didn’t let him go to one of the lesser desirable options in the league. Though money wise they couldn’t, I wouldn’t have been surprised if Vegas or somebody like that found a way to get him. But either way, glad he’s sticking around Vancouver definitely keeps the odds looking good for the Canucks this season playoff wise.

Yea me neither, idk what teams wanted him or were actively looking for him. Good move by the Canucks for them nonetheless.