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Fantasy A Marriage Between Nations (Plotting)

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Alright so after rereading the drama, I’m a little confused on how this will get settled. Both parties feel wronged, but Jason made some major political no no’s. Even if he manages to walk away with just a verbal warning, jotengaumer is not aligned with any other major kingdom politically. And after this other kingdoms may be reluctant to approach. (Maybe something like Hydras Head will jump on him)
 
So...I, like, just finished a couple days of work with some long commutes and am tired. Couldn't have my phone on me most of the time. Obviously, I missed a lot. Uh, I'll try to get a post up tomorrow and have Aria step in, but I felt like the situation should have ended when Serana intervened. I'm not exactly sure what Aria could say to cool everyone down, either. Honestly...it might be best to have King Arkyn make his entrance now and have that force everyone to swallow their egos.

Not having witnessed the lead up, it would be incredibly stupid for Harridan or Zoleii to dish out some capital punishment and sparking a war between two super powers in front of Arkyn. Certainly, Zoleii can't act too harshly towards Jason, and Arkyn might just call off the wedding if he thinks Alor is just going to immediately drag them into the most costly war they've fought yet. She's maintained her legitimacy precisely because all the rumors about her have stayed just that--rumors. She's got to maintain that facade at the very least in front of Arkyn. In the case of Harridan, he is publicly known for his destructive behavior, but I think Zoleii would know to keep him on a tight leash. She did already reprimand him, but I guess maybe she'll have to do it again to make him stand down? In the case of Jason, I think it's reasonable to say that he would probably admire and respect King Arkyn greatly and would actually abide him demanding a cease to everyone's pride and incivility during what was meant to be a celebration of unity and peace.

Arkyn is an experienced ruler, a strong warrior with a strong personality, and seems determined to maintain Evander's peaceful times. Having him step in and mediate the situation would not only give good motivation for everyone to just chill and move on, but it would be a good character reinforcing moment for the King of Evander where everyone gets to see just what kind of a man he is and how the stories of how grand a person he is aren't just exaggerations.

That's just my opinion. I think Arkyn should be the one to resolve this.

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Just a tip for everyone in the future; it's okay to not have your character get the last word in. You will end up in situations that only ever escalate and never deescalate if no one allows their character to back down. Even if your character is strong willed or short tempered, they should, in general, be taking the path of least resistance to obtain their goals unless they are literally Loki the god of chaos and just want to watch the world burn.
 
ithinkcat ithinkcat That is what I have been thinking as well.

Also, everyone has made their first post now, so feel free to begin to post again. I just wanted to make sure that no one got flooded or left behind. That being said, please be courteous of one another and don't post a ton in a row.

The last thing I wanted to mention is to please be kind to one another and let me know if there are any problems. My finals are over tonight, so I should be available more. However, I probably should mention that I am on the autism spectrum and I can have issues with understanding people's vibes. So, if there is an issue, just let me know, since I may not be able to tell. That's not really relevant at the moment, but I thought y'all should know. I promise that I'm not ignoring you if there is issues.
 
I do not agree with the statement of not backing down from a fight, so long as it is perfectly in character to do so. One simply has to ensure they avoid having to be saved by plot armor to avoid the consequences of their conflict.

Everyone present saw that Alor didn't start this in any way. Sure, Harridan was mean, but it was Jason that literally bullrushed foreign personnel and began to scale their castle.

The best I can do at this point, since acting fully in character for Harridan is off the table, is as follows-Jason and his posse, having clearly insulted the queen, get barred from the party. Later, a dignitary from the group of Jötengaumer can come, perhaps urged by Arkyn since he's so nice a king, apologize for his King's absolutely boorish behavior, and offer some tribute in order to allow them reentry.

Jason survives, Zoleii and Harridan reinforce their image as "not to be fucked with", Arkyn establishes himself as a fair monarch, Jötengaumer is punished for the Patriarch's stupidity. Close enough to appeasing everyone while not being too out of character.
 
And on that Note,

The Evanderians trying to make a good first impression COMPLETELY unaware of everything that just went down:


I just cackled out loud

I do not agree with the statement of not backing down from a fight, so long as it is perfectly in character to do so. One simply has to ensure they avoid having to be saved by plot armor to avoid the consequences of their conflict.

Everyone present saw that Alor didn't start this in any way. Sure, Harridan was mean, but it was Jason that literally bullrushed foreign personnel and began to scale their castle.

The best I can do at this point, since acting fully in character for Harridan is off the table, is as follows-Jason and his posse, having clearly insulted the queen, get barred from the party. Later, a dignitary from the group of Jötengaumer can come, perhaps urged by Arkyn since he's so nice a king, apologize for his King's absolutely boorish behavior, and offer some tribute in order to allow them reentry.

Jason survives, Zoleii and Harridan reinforce their image as "not to be fucked with", Arkyn establishes himself as a fair monarch, Jötengaumer is punished for the Patriarch's stupidity. Close enough to appeasing everyone while not being too out of character.
No truer words have ever truthed, my lad
 
Kinda excited to write this cluster-f of a situation! Haha! Although, I'm just waiting on Oydis' post so the fam can resume from their frozen interaction from the riverbank. On a side note, how do I mention people HAHAHA
 
Kinda excited to write this cluster-f of a situation! Haha! Although, I'm just waiting on Oydis' post so the fam can resume from their frozen interaction from the riverbank. On a side note, how do I mention people HAHAHA
You go, King
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I do not agree with the statement of not backing down from a fight, so long as it is perfectly in character to do so. One simply has to ensure they avoid having to be saved by plot armor to avoid the consequences of their conflict.

Everyone present saw that Alor didn't start this in any way. Sure, Harridan was mean, but it was Jason that literally bullrushed foreign personnel and began to scale their castle.

The best I can do at this point, since acting fully in character for Harridan is off the table, is as follows-Jason and his posse, having clearly insulted the queen, get barred from the party. Later, a dignitary from the group of Jötengaumer can come, perhaps urged by Arkyn since he's so nice a king, apologize for his King's absolutely boorish behavior, and offer some tribute in order to allow them reentry.

Jason survives, Zoleii and Harridan reinforce their image as "not to be fucked with", Arkyn establishes himself as a fair monarch, Jötengaumer is punished for the Patriarch's stupidity. Close enough to appeasing everyone while not being too out of character.
This ^^
 
Maybe it is just me, but the fact that this is an issue speaks volumes about these characters.

These characters are boar headed and only interested in themselves. Not only that, but Zoleii and Harridan lack any planning skills. Everyone obviously looks at Jason and his nation as savage brutes, yet they didn't expect and plan for something like this in advance when inviting him?

Why is it not a solution to just have them stay their actions until a certain point, then denounce any relationship with Jötengaumer at a calmer time? Those two are so worried about image, but they are so ready to mess up their carefully guarded secrets over one guy they knew for a fact had no need or desire to follow social graces? Does that make sense? It's not like Jason hides the way he is. Why is it such a stretch that Zoleii and Harridan expected him to act this way and can keep themselves calm to wait for the perfect opportunity to punish Jason? It makes sense to me.
 
If this continues to be a major issue, I can leave. I don't want to, but I did not sign up for this complication.
 
I fail to see your point. Jason was invited with full awareness of his rude nature, but there is a line between being rude and literally offering up Cassus Belli left and right. They most likely had at least the idea that it would be wise to defame him by provoking his brutish nature, but they didn't need to put in any effort-Jason just handed them what they wanted on a silver platter. There is no point in waiting for a more opportune time, as it's not like what has already been uttered is not enough.

I also don't see what carefully guarded secrets are being spilled beyond "We do not tolerate savagery in our castle", and that's not really a secret now, is it?

I think however this is no longer a major issue, or an issue at all, as a solution has been found. We can therefore move forward with this.
 

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