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[Hall Kervean]

That's funny, my grandma owns a cow farm.
I guess that means she owns a farm of saints. Holy cow!

Okay, enough shitty jokes. I'll get on topic.

Vegans are cancerous people. Not just because they're obnoxious and have a fatal abundance of pointless pride, but also because their whole ideology is flawed at the most basic level. Animals eat animals. Meat is made out of animals. Thus animals eat meat. And guess what? Humans are animals.

The thing that vegans can't get through their heads is this: Humans are meant to eat meat. Not necessarily a whole load of it, but if you subsist on grass alone, that can't be beneficial to your health and it sure as hell ain't beneficial to the food chain, where animals would evolve soft and weak if humans treated them nicely. Generations of duck in my country die because old people feed them with bread, and when they die, the ducklings begin to starve - their parents didn't teach them how to find food out in nature. They taught them to go to the nearest bridge because humans drop bread. The same would happen if we stopped hunting or farming animals but in a different way. You can't just release a farm of pigs and hope they would survive and not affect the eco-system in any detrimental way. They weren't taught how to properly survive. Actually reinstalling a species of domesticated animals back into the natural habitat their species originated from would take several generations of careful breeding and slow, progressive rehabilitation. You would have to actually teach them how to find food and shelter from predators. And in the long run, all that would earn mankind would be the following list:

• Depriving us of some food.
• Giving it away to other predatory animals to have instead. Carnivores are even more cruel in the regard of hunting and killing than humans; it's their way of life. For us it's just a way of getting food from time to time.
  • Or opportunistic omnivores, which I guess, are still predators, just less hardcore than what I described above.

I think they want to release them until you tell them why that wouldn't work.
At that point they either want the progressive rehabilitation, which you described, or they don't care and continue to want it to happen because "at least it would be natural."
It's frustrating to be honest.
There are legitimate vegans though. I know some. Their life isn't consumed by veganism. They don't even pressure their child to be a vegan. They do it for their health, not to save teh lifstok. Those are the vegans that other vegans should aspire to be. The ones no one knows are vegans because they don't brag about it.

 

[MrThe]

It's interesting to look at India which has a huge percentage of Vegetarians because they have so many cows that It's causing serious environmental and even public health issues. They have so many cows that when they die they have a ton of trouble getting rid of them, simply because there are so many, not to mention the massive amount if waste the cows produce. And because the cows have so few natural predators and no one wants to do anything about the cows, they end up deforesting a lot of land. It causes a bunch of problems when everybody is vegetarian. If the people don't eat the cows and there aren't enough tigers to eat them instead, then the cows will wreck everything.

 

[Hall Kervean]

It's interesting to look at India which has a huge percentage of Vegetarians because they have so many cows that It's causing serious environmental and even public health issues. They have so many cows that when they die they have a ton of trouble getting rid of them, simply because there are so many, not to mention the massive amount if waste the cows produce. And because the cows have so few natural predators and no one wants to do anything about the cows, they end up deforesting a lot of land. It causes a bunch of problems when everybody is vegetarian. If the people don't eat the cows and there aren't enough tigers to eat them instead, then the cows will wreck everything.

Plus, according to one interesting individual on here, one of the 6 pillars of happiness in Hinduism is don't eat meat.

 

[MrThe]

Plus, according to one interesting individual on here, one of the 6 pillars of happiness in Hinduism is don't eat meat.

I don't know about that because eating meat does make me happy

 

[bobbo_mush]

Like feminism, veganism is one of the many monuments to the stupidity of humankind.

Oh, I agree.

Like feminism, veganism is widely generalized and misunderstood. Oftentimes, a person will meet one who happens to be a little extreme, or even one that blackens the name of what they stand for (Like misandrists calling themselves feminists, for example.) Upon meeting people like these or hearing stories about them, everyone assumes that all of them are like that.

Vegan calls you a killer for liking bacon? All vegans must say that.
"Feminist" claims that all men are devils? Guess that's what feminism is all about.
Mentally ill person is also a murderer? Crap, they're gonna kill us all
Muslim act of terrorism? Man you better watch out, they're all terrorists now
The list goes on. And on.

People make assumptions based on the obnoxious minority, which are ultimately unfair to everyone else and make it harder to be honest about oneself. Once these assumptions are widespread, the less obnoxious majority might as well be silenced, because they're afraid that someone will ridicule them and throw false generalizations at them if they even hint at what they are.

I know plenty of vegans and vegetarians, and none of them proclaim their beliefs with every breath. Same goes for feminists. They're just regular people who want to live their lives without people shouting at them for being what they are.

So, yes. Through feminism and veganism, we see prime examples of the stupidity of humanity: we see the people who make assumptions based on the obnoxious minority.

 

[Hall Kervean]

Oh, I agree.

Like feminism, veganism is widely generalized and misunderstood. Oftentimes, a person will meet one who happens to be a little extreme, or even one that blackens the name of what they stand for (Like misandrists calling themselves feminists, for example.) Upon meeting people like these or hearing stories about them, everyone assumes that all of them are like that.

Vegan calls you a killer for liking bacon? All vegans must say that.
"Feminist" claims that all men are devils? Guess that's what feminism is all about.
Mentally ill person is also a murderer? Crap, they're gonna kill us all
Muslim act of terrorism? Man you better watch out, they're all terrorists now
The list goes on. And on.

People make assumptions based on the obnoxious minority, which are ultimately unfair to everyone else and make it harder to be honest about oneself. Once these assumptions are widespread, the less obnoxious majority might as well be silenced, because they're afraid that someone will ridicule them and throw false generalizations at them if they even hint at what they are.

I know plenty of vegans and vegetarians, and none of them proclaim their beliefs with every breath. Same goes for feminists. They're just regular people who want to live their lives without people shouting at them for being what they are.

So, yes. Through feminism and veganism, we see prime examples of the stupidity of humanity: we see the people who make assumptions based on the obnoxious minority.

Yush vegans are terrorists
i knew it all along
get ur helmets
timmy, get the beans
git tuh the bunkr
let them nukes com
well w8 them out.

 

[bobbo_mush]

Yush vegans are terrorists
i knew it all along
get ur helmets
timmy, get the beans
git tuh the bunkr
let them nukes com
well w8 them out.

Vegans are terrorists and anime-haters! Off with their heads!

 

[Hall Kervean]

Vegans are terrorists and anime-haters! Off with their heads!

GASP
I mean, terrorism, is eee. Jail 'em for it. But anime-haters!?
BRING OUT THE BOILING OIL!!!

 

[Imperator_tenebrae]

I know plenty of vegans and vegetarians, and none of them proclaim their beliefs with every breath. Same goes for feminists. They're just regular people who want to live their lives without people shouting at them for being what they are.

So, yes. Through feminism and veganism, we see prime examples of the stupidity of humanity: we see the people who make assumptions based on the obnoxious minority.

I know some vegetarians who aren't extreme as your typical vegan since they do eat fish and on rare occasions eggs. Nothing wrong with a healthy eating lifestyle but you got some folks that take it to extremes and want to subjugate others into their way of living.

Like this veganazi bitch...

 

[Axel The Englishman]

Isn't a Vegan who eats fish and eggs

Not a Vegan

Question mark

 

[Imperator_tenebrae]

Isn't a Vegan who eats fish and eggs

Not a Vegan

Question mark

I've always understood vegans were hardcore all veggies no meats where as vegetarians ate fish and eggs. Apparently I was told there are two distinctions between vegan and classic vegetarian.

 

[MrThe]

If they eat fish or eggs they are not vegetarians because that is meat. Also Vegans are those who don't eat any animal products, including dairy where vegetarians just don't eat meat.

 

[bobbo_mush]

If a vegetarian eats eggs or fish every once in a while, that doesn't make them non-vegetarians; it just means their vegetarianism isn't as strict as one that wouldn't eat fish or eggs.

 

[Imperator_tenebrae]

If a vegetarian eats eggs or fish every once in a while, that doesn't make them non-vegetarians; it just means their vegetarianism isn't as strict as one that wouldn't eat fish or eggs.

Yeah. I try to get them to explain that and it's very convoluted. They just liked being called vegan than vegetarian. Eh...fekking hipsters.

 

[Hall Kervean]

Yeah. I try to get them to explain that and it's very convoluted. They just liked being called vegan than vegetarian. Eh...fekking hipsters.

Made me think of Robot Chicken Palpatine

Hippies start at 1:15

 

[AsrielGoatChild]

Me no want be vegan. Me like MEAT. *pounds chest and takes large bite of steak*

 

[Hall Kervean]

Me no want be vegan. Me like MEAT. *pounds chest and takes large bite of steak*

OUR BROTHER HATH SPOKEN
HAIL TO THE CHIEF
*pounds drum*

 

[PortugalTM]

Yes, in a lot of the big companies, animals are mistreated
However, people are working to stop that, and they are mistreated in their living conditions.

People eating meat is literally the circle of life.
(Cue lion king music in the background)
That's like walking up to a lion and saying
"you no eat gazelle you eat acai berry. will make you healthier I swear"

Apart from the fact lions are straight carnivores but shut up okay.
FUNNY STORY:

there's a triggered group of vegans in my city, and recently they went to a lake, and found a family having a nice time fishing. They got all up in this families face shouting
"FISHING CAUSES PAIN TO OTHER BEINGS"
then one of the guys tries to grab a fish they caught, and the mom puts her foot over it. The guy pushes her foot out of the way and throws the fish back.

The fish the guy threw back is an invasive species.

Most of it was caught on tape and watching made me lose faith in humanity.

 

[adrian_]

If a vegetarian eats eggs or fish every once in a while, that doesn't make them non-vegetarians; it just means their vegetarianism isn't as strict as one that wouldn't eat fish or eggs.

Pescatarians, you mean?

 

[Axel The Englishman]

Funny thing is, fish apparently don't feel pain the way we do because they lack neuro-psychological capacity to do so.

 

[FTR]

That's why I switched over to 93 octane

 

[CastoffCaptain]

Actually, one of my best friends is vegan, and she doesn't try to convert everyone she sees, nor does she insult anyone who eats meat. She's a good, kind, generous soul, and one of the reasons she is vegan is, of course, the cruelty to animals thing-- you know, doesn't like the live-chicken-thrown-into-a-grinder-bit -- but also, the less we rely on massive farms for meat, the better it is for the environment.

I think it's just as crap to go and say "all vegans are x way", because hey, if a vegan walked up to you and said, "all omnivores are x way", you'd be pissed, wouldn't you? Well. When you name-call, stereotype, and smoosh people into a "they're all bad" category, you look as much like a douche as the people you're condemning.

To each his own. If someone doesn't want to eat meat or animal products, fine. Even if their reasoning is a little off-center to what reality might accept (as in, people keeping cows as pets), who cares? I mean, really. How hard does it affect your life? You don't like it, just stop listening.

 

[Hall Kervean]

Actually, one of my best friends is vegan, and she doesn't try to convert everyone she sees, nor does she insult anyone who eats meat. She's a good, kind, generous soul, and one of the reasons she is vegan is, of course, the cruelty to animals thing-- you know, doesn't like the live-chicken-thrown-into-a-grinder-bit -- but also, the less we rely on massive farms for meat, the better it is for the environment.

I think it's just as crap to go and say "all vegans are x way", because hey, if a vegan walked up to you and said, "all omnivores are x way", you'd be pissed, wouldn't you? Well. When you name-call, stereotype, and smoosh people into a "they're all bad" category, you look as much like a douche as the people you're condemning.

To each his own. If someone doesn't want to eat meat or animal products, fine. Even if their reasoning is a little off-center to what reality might accept (as in, people keeping cows as pets), who cares? I mean, really. How hard does it affect your life? You don't like it, just stop listening.

Hmm.
I see your point.
And raise you that you should have read allllll the replies to the thread.
It's been stated numerous times that #notallvegans
And it's also been stated that those who do it for health reasons are faaaar less likely to call normal people murderers.
I would honestly be surprised if a vegan who did it for the animals didn't have a good heart and, as a result, good intentions. But you know what the road to hell is paved out of, right?
I am 99.999999% sure they don't throw live chickens into grinders. That's downright unhealthy.
The less we rely on massive farms for meat the better for th-... Where are you getting that fam. Massive farms sprung up in the 1600's and 1700's. I don't think you're right on that one.
"Between 1930 and 1940, the southwestern Great Plains region of the United States suffered a severe drought. Once a semi-arid grassland, the treeless plains became home to thousands of settlers when, in 1862, Congress passed the Homestead Act. Most of the settlers farmed their land or grazed cattle. The farmers plowed the prairie grasses and planted dry land wheat. As the demand for wheat products grew, cattle grazing was reduced, and millions more acres were plowed and planted."
Cattle ranchers also overgrazed but that's not a problem anymore. Anywho, the cattle were reduced in number and vegetable planting increased.
This was followed by what is known as the "Dust Bowl."
Indeed it is. The responses to this thread are in agreement that all vegans are not on board with the crazies.
Point is, enough are that we can make jokes about it and people can laugh.
No I would laugh it off and ask them what the end result is. If they describe a utopia, I facepalm. If they describe OP, then I laugh again. If they describe something else, then I need to ask them how they got there, because these are the only two endgoals of the movement that wants to save animals from aboose.
Name-calling someone who eats nothing vegetables a herbivore isn't any different than labeling people who eat meat and other stuff omnivores.
Great. T'was unsure, but you've made it clear as mud.

Well, if they succeed, then it changes everything. So... SABOTAGE VEGANS!
Ofc. But then that leads to cause misinterpretation, which leads to unnecessary conflict.

 

[Doktor Jivaneanof]

I think it's possible that some cows and other domesticated animals might survive if they were all released. Most of them would probably die, but the ones who learn how to survive in the natural world would persist. If there's enough of them still left, maybe they can repopulate into wild breeds that don't need humans to take care of them. Natural selection.

 

[Hall Kervean]

I think it's possible that some cows and other domesticated animals might survive if they were all released. Most of them would probably die, but the ones who learn how to survive in the natural world would persist. If there's enough of them still left, maybe they can repopulate into wild breeds that don't need humans to take care of them. Natural selection.

Probably. But there's a good chance that cows, which are like the straight-up symbol of domesticated animals, won't be able to adapt.