Dissapointed

[Axeykins]

But as I've stated before quite enthusiastically.....tabs were wonderful things. Now it's just more jumping around than needed. Like the customization of the title page, hate that we can't just hit different labeled tabs to find parts of the rp. it was just a lot nicer in the long run.


Sorry if I'm so stubborn but simple rps are really just the way to go. We don't need all these gat danged hosted projects, just nice forums to write on like before!

 

[Phantom Thief of Hearts]

Thats what the new RP system is. Every RP gets forums. Please read the announcement and submit your request to have your Hosted Project updated.

where do I do that? I'm still getting use to the site's layout.

 

[The Dark Wizard]

But as I've stated before quite enthusiastically.....tabs were wonderful things. Now it's just more jumping around than needed. Like the customization of the title page, hate that we can't just hit different labeled tabs to find parts of the rp. it was just a lot nicer in the long run.


Sorry if I'm so stubborn but simple rps are really just the way to go. We don't need all these gat danged hosted projects, just nice forums to write on like before!

It was either forums or one thread for every RP. Tabs were an unsupported addon that was commissioned by us for RpNation and we've had nothing but all of our developers leave. The Xenforo Development scene for addons is in turmoil and it has become non existent over the last 2 years. The Tabs system was literally running on nothing but fumes and tape that the staff added.

 

[Dire Wolf Devil]

We have a system in place for translating the old bbcode system into the new formatting language. As background processes continue to compile, every post on the site will have its coding automatically repaired as best as possible.

Glad to hear that. Well... Glad to read, I mean. xD Hope it all goes well!

 

[welian]

tabs were wonderful things

They were! It's a shame we didn't have enough developer support on XenForo and were forced to migrate to IPS in order to maintain a functional and healthy site.

 

[The Dark Wizard]

where do I do that? I'm still getting use to the site's layout.

You should have announcements at the top of every page on the site.


You can also submit requests at https://www.rpnation.com/support

 

[Mitchs98]

Its fine. All I ask for is patience !

Now that I know everything isn't completely fucked on my end, I can be patient with everything else. It's just stressfull to see deleted/bugged content and 7 pages of watched threads gone you know? xD

 

[Colt556]

I'd just like to ask why the change happened to begin with. In almost every possible way this new site is inferior to the old one. Everything from features to the transfer of threads to the aesthetics themselves. It's just worse. Now you can say 'it's not finished!' but then my response would be why was it implemented? If the functionality isn't finished, if you had no way of properly transferring threads, why did you initiate the update to begin with? I am honestly curious why this update was rolled out when all it's done is lose tons of functionality, cause tons of grief, and offered us virtually no benefits whatsoever.

 

[Axeykins]

And unfortunately there doesn't seem like any single format you could find that used them either, even though they seem like pretty basic and general things. lol.


I said it before, but if only there were tabs under the hosted project thing or options for it instead of an rp area and all that jazz. Less to click on and it's all basically there on one page. That would be quite nice, but, after what you've said. Do not see that one happening...


i feel like the crazy Tab lady here talking about them so much x3 But they really were so nice.

 

[Phantom Thief of Hearts]

And unfortunately there doesn't seem like any single format you could find that used them either, even though they seem like pretty basic and general things. lol.


I said it before, but if only there were tabs under the hosted project thing or options for it instead of an rp area and all that jazz. Less to click on and it's all basically there on one page. That would be quite nice, but, after what you've said. Do not see that one happening...


i feel like the crazy Tab lady here talking about them so much x3 But they really were so nice.

I also miss the ratings... now we just have likes

 

[Phantom Thief of Hearts]

You can say the other ratings don't matter but the thing is that it gives people an idea what kind of RPer you are...


I had a High amount of Funny Ratings meaning I was a comedic RPer

 

[Dire Wolf Devil]

I also miss the ratings... now we just have likes

I was saying the same thing to the group I RP with. xD We started using the 'Aww' rating for character Ships and now everyone's like "NOW THERE'S NO SHIP RATING!"

 

[Phantom Thief of Hearts]

I was saying the same thing to the group I RP with. xD We started using the 'Aww' rating for character Ships and now everyone's like "NOW THERE'S NO SHIP RATING!"

Yeah, and didn't the just recently added 'Aww' and 'Spooky' and now they're gone... for what point?

 

[Axeykins]

And oh my gog I'm finally hearing the alert noise and is there any way to turn that off? It sounds like it's from an SNES game x3 and not a good one at that.

 

[The Dark Wizard]

I also miss the ratings... now we just have likes

Ratings are a cosmetic, they will be restored soon.

 

[Kazu]

I'm not that surprised by how upset people are with the update, and I can really see why. It's all new, and different, and I have no idea how stuff is meant to work yet. Still, I'm one to try to think the best of people, and I read through the explanation of why the update was made. I've read how they're going to continue working on things and updating them and suchlike. And after reading that, I think I really understand why this update had to happen, and why it is happening the way it did.


Why did the site have to update? Well according to the explanation given, it's because the site was on track to breaking with the current system. Perhaps it would have been okay for a while, but eventually it would have broken. I'm a firm believer in the principle of changing things quickly if things are going to have to be changed. The change was a necessary one. It's not going to undo itself because that would defeat the purpose of changing what the site is using to run.


Why did they get rid of BBcode? Well because it doesn't work on this program that the site is currently using. From what I learned from reading all those pages of questions and answers about the changes, they can't put the old system of BBcode back in because it's outdated, but the same customization is going to be made available. It's just going to take a bit to learn it, but that's how it has to be.


Why didn't they wait until the site was "finished" before launching? Several reasons I think (and I hope I'm not being presumptuous by assuming that these are the reasons). Firstly, people want to be able to rp. There were people waiting for the site to be back up so that they could spring right back into action. I know that I certainly was one of those people. It's back up, and now I can rp in new rps or via PM. Secondly, they're going to continue updating more and more and working out bugs and all of that. Waiting to finish every little thing would take ages for it to count as finished. It's a functional site at the moment, and while not everything is polished and complete, it works. (Thirdly, after catching up with this thread, they needed to put it online to start converting threads over)


There's a ton of work that needs to be done, and I've got a ton of respect for all the effort being put into this site by the mods. I'm no programmer, but I know that just getting things up and running takes a lot. And I've got no doubt that there's still work going into getting everything converted, and there will probably be more work that will go into making things look a certain way (several themes are available for use which is pretty neat, and the notification system is working well). My view is that all of the remarks made prior to the update were addressed at least once, and that mods are still running around helping people and explaining things as much as possible. I'm not going to say that there is nothing to complain about, change is a difficult thing, but I honestly think that the site administrators and mods deserve nothing but respect. Programming is hard, and dealing with people who are upset is hard. And yet here they're doing it all to try to make things as easy as possible.


This update had to happen, and people are going to disagree on whether that was a good thing or bad thing, but it was a necessity. And considering that, I think some time should be given to let things smooth out. This wasn't done for kicks, or to make things easier. Heck it's probably going to be very hard for the people who work on this site. It's understandable to be disappointed, but I'd encourage people to not give up yet. More than being patient, I think people should read through the explanation given to us, and follow along with the updates as they continue to be made. We might have to wait a bit to see formatting updates or other changes made to the overall functioning of the site (it seems the main focus now is the manual conversion of rps), but I know that the staff are passionate about this website and are going to keep working hard for us. I think it's important to encourage them and focus on constructive criticism (though personally I think we should hold back on the latter for a bit until the chaos dies down).

^

I'd just like to ask why the change happened to begin with. In almost every possible way this new site is inferior to the old one. Everything from features to the transfer of threads to the aesthetics themselves. It's just worse. Now you can say 'it's not finished!' but then my response would be why was it implemented? If the functionality isn't finished, if you had no way of properly transferring threads, why did you initiate the update to begin with? I am honestly curious why this update was rolled out when all it's done is lose tons of functionality, cause tons of grief, and offered us virtually no benefits whatsoever.

 

[HK Fifty]

Ratings are a cosmetic, they will be restored soon.

I'm just going to go ahead and say this.


Why didn't you (or ghan or whoever) not just wait until everything was up and running smoothly instead of activating the site before it was fully operational? 

 

[The Dark Wizard]

I'm just going to go ahead and say this.


Why didn't you (or ghan or whoever) not just wait until everything was up and running smoothly instead of activating the site before it was fully operational? 

Please read Kazu's post above.

 

[HK Fifty]

Please read Kazu's post above.

Ah I see..


There's a second question there. Why not just go ahead and convert all the RPs? I'm assuming it would have been difficult , but I don't see why it would've mattered had you taken the extra few days to do it (and then active any single one that wasn't claimed within.. A week? Two weeks , perhaps?). 

 

[HK Fifty]

Or... Ah. I see. Manually , it would have taken more than just days to convert RPs that may not have ever been active on the return. 

 

[The Dark Wizard]

Why not just go ahead and convert all the RPs? I'm assuming it would have been difficult , but I don't see why it would've mattered had you taken the extra few days to do it (and then active any single one that wasn't claimed within.. A week? Two weeks , perhaps?). 

Because the user has to create the RP first before we can move the threads into the new system. Something we are helping tons of users due via the support system. Everyone who has converted so far loves it. You can see all existing rps on the new system via the front page or by visting this link. https://www.rpnation.com/rp

 

[Nova King]

Man looking at the update and thinking about all the hopes I had I feel kind of let down. This is a huge change out of no where and when we spoke out about it it's apparently not finished yet. I wasn't told that. Many other friends of mine weren't told that. Until we complained about it enough. All in all it seems like a cop out and you guys just couldn't handle what everyone was saying. And sure you moderators tested it but why not have a few beta testers or tell us from the beginning that this was purely a test to show us that there was progress instead of just dropping us here to figure stuff out. All I wanted was a simple explanation before shit hit the fan. But I guess it doesn't matter what I say because all I can do is bite my tongue and wait. 

 

[HK Fifty]

Because the user has to create the RP first before we can move the threads into the new system. Something we are helping tons of users due via the support system. Everyone who has converted so far loves it. You can see all existing rps on the new system via the front page or by visting this link. https://www.rpnation.com/rp

That I truly don't get. It's already created... Why does the user need to Re-create it? I'm not doubting the format isn't good (though , I preferred the tabs to the forum , but hey , I like the forum too , and I won't have to worry about people showing up and making fools of themselves) , I'm just saying it doesn't make any sense to have to create an already existing RolePlay for its contents to be transferred. 

 

[Donder172]

I understand that people are angry at the changes. And I have to say, I am not a big fan of the changes. I understand that now the bbcode is gone, entire rps are messed up. Navigation is much different from the old version and a bit confusing.


Profile has changed too. Coding has changed. People don't like it. But I do think we should give it a chance. I am not saying this one is perfect, it's not. Neither was the old version, while it was easier when you know how it works. And that is also something with this version, we know not a lot of how it works.

 

[Phantom Thief of Hearts]

We have an attachment limit?!