Ancient World 320 BCE Nation RP Sign up thread

[Pman]

Blazefire2000- Corsica City state


Lordvarder59- Roman Republic


AdmiralKerkov- Scythian Nomads


Lord TacoBell- the Macedonian state of Egypt


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List of static nations for choosing


 (Set governments (Not necessarily a monarchy) that have a permanent city for a capital) Kingdoms:


Carthaginian Empire (Mediterranean; North Africa/Spain)


Iberia (Spain)


Etruscan Kingdom (Italy)


Umbaria (Italy)


Samnite Kingdom (Italy)


Dardanian Kingdom (Greece)


Macedonia (Greece)


Epirus (Greece)


Kush (Sudan)


Sabaean Dynasty (Arabia)


Seleucid Empire (Iran)


Chera Dynasty (India)


Kalinga (India)


Pandyan Empire (India)


Han (China)


Chu (China)


Lu (China)


Qi (China)


Qin (China)


Wei (China)


Xie (China)


Yan (China)


Yue (China)


Zeng (China)


Zhoa (China)


Zhou (China)


Van Lang (Vietnam)


Gojoseon (Korea)



Post applications here and once accepted post a turn on the main thread. Moderations will occur a week from today.

 

[AdmiralKerkov]

 Template for Applications  (Please use this template, not everything about this has to be historically accurate because we know that not everything can be found, some of it can be made up. But if it is something obvious and easy to find, for example, if you are the Roman Republic, and you answer "Capital: Gluttius Maximus" then obviously you are going to be rejected for not making a suitable application)


Kingdom/Chiefdom/Tribe/Nomadic Peoples Name (If you choose Tribes/Chiefdom/Nomadic Peoples we will not list them and you have to find the name yourselves as there is too many to list):


Capital/Area (If you are not a kingdom/chiefdom, please put your general area):


Two other major cities: 


Population Size (Estimate if you need):


Government Type:


Specialities/Trades (Basically, what your nation is famous for, or does mainly. For instance Egypt is mainly agrarian, and Carthage/Phoenicia are mainly Ship builders or merchants): 


Main Exports:


Army Size (Please list Cavalry, Infantry, and Specialty weapons such as Ballistas or War elephants. We know this is going to be mainly estimation, please estimate fairly for the time and your kingdom, this is meant to semi-realistic): 

 

[Lordvader59]

Kingdom/Chiefdom/Tribe/Nomadic Peoples Name: The Roman Republic


Capital/Area (If you are not a kingdom/chiefdom, please put your general area):


Roma


Two other major cities: 


Neapolis (modern Naples), Capua


Population Size (Estimate if you need):


775,500


Government Type:


Republic... representative democracy


Specialities/Trades (Basically, what your nation is famous for, or does mainly. For instance Egypt is mainly agrarian, and Carthage/Phoenicia are mainly Ship builders or merchants): 


Main Exports:


Soldiers (invasions), lumber


Army Size (Please list Cavalry, Infantry, and Specialty weapons such as Ballistas or War elephants. We know this is going to be mainly estimation, please estimate fairly for the time and your kingdom, this is meant to semi-realistic): 


30,000 infantry


3,000 cavalry


50 ballistae


20 onagers


6 triremes

 

[player2]

Kingdom/Chiefdom/Tribe/Nomadic Peoples Name : Carthaginian Empire


Capital/Area : Carthage


Two other major cities: Hippo (modern Annaba), Uzalis ( modern El Alia)


Population Size (Estimate if you need): 1,500,000 (give or take)


Government Type: Monarchy


Specialities/Trades : Shipbuilders, merchants


Main Exports: bronze, textiles, dyes, pottery, incense, fish, olive oil and wine


Army Size:


350 warships. 10,000 standing soldiers (hoplites), 2,000 mercenaries. 

 

[Pman]

Kingdom/Chiefdom/Tribe/Nomadic Peoples Name: The Roman Republic


Capital/Area (If you are not a kingdom/chiefdom, please put your general area):


Roma


Two other major cities: 


Neapolis (modern Naples), Capua


Population Size (Estimate if you need):


775,500


Government Type:


Republic... representative democracy


Specialities/Trades (Basically, what your nation is famous for, or does mainly. For instance Egypt is mainly agrarian, and Carthage/Phoenicia are mainly Ship builders or merchants): 


Main Exports:


Soldiers (invasions), lumber


Army Size (Please list Cavalry, Infantry, and Specialty weapons such as Ballistas or War elephants. We know this is going to be mainly estimation, please estimate fairly for the time and your kingdom, this is meant to semi-realistic): 


30,000 infantry


3,000 cavalry


50 ballistae

Accepted, post your turn

Kingdom/Chiefdom/Tribe/Nomadic Peoples Name : Carthaginian Empire


Capital/Area : Carthage


Two other major cities: Hippo (modern Annaba), Uzalis ( modern El Alia)


Population Size (Estimate if you need): 1,500,000 (give or take)


Government Type: Monarchy


Specialities/Trades : Shipbuilders, merchants


Main Exports: bronze, textiles, dyes, pottery, incense, fish, olive oil and wine


Army Size:


350 warships. Military forces comprised of mercenaries

If you could give me a number of mercenaries, that'll get you accepted also PM me your skype name if you want in the chat

 

[player2]

If you could give me a number of mercenaries, that'll get you accepted also PM me your skype name if you want in the chat

Should I just give you the most they could possibly buy? because there is no need to sustain an army unless you think you are threatened, especially if it's not your own people. 

 

[Albion]

Kingdom/Chiefdom/Tribe/Nomadic Peoples Name (If you choose Tribes/Chiefdom/Nomadic Peoples we will not list them and you have to find the name yourselves as there is too many to list): The High Chiefdom of the Franks


Capital/Area (If you are not a kingdom/chiefdom, please put your general area): The Capital is Arvidii.


Two other major cities: The other two major towns or Goltii and Maridii, though they are much smaller than Arvidii. 


Population Size (Estimate if you need): ~453,000 people, though they are loosely joined together. The actual amount of people directly under the Chief Angilbart's control is somewhere in the range of forty thousand.


Government Type: Chiefdom


Specialities/Trades (Basically, what your nation is famous for, or does mainly. For instance Egypt is mainly agrarian, and Carthage/Phoenicia are mainly Ship builders or merchants):  The Franks are largely agrarian but have recently begun extracting iron and making spears and small swords, causing raiding the largely fertile Gallians to be more profitable.


Main Exports: Agrarian Crops, Lumber, Iron


Army Size (Please list Cavalry, Infantry, and Specialty weapons such as Ballistas or War elephants. We know this is going to be mainly estimation, please estimate fairly for the time and your kingdom, this is meant to semi-realistic):  Four thousand raiders armed with spears, some with iron or bronze. Four-hundred twenty six riders of Horse, who are armed with spear ten cubits long and a longknife for infantry combat. The Franks have only one General, the Chief Angilbart, who is well skilled in hit and run tactics and raiding, but lacks the skill and knowledge for pitched battles as current. Oft times the infantrymen will have a small hat made from the hide of a cow as well as leather boots for the ragged terrain. They are oft armored with a cloth tunic padded and if they are richer, they have breastplates of bronze. The riders are the best armored of all the Frankish military.

 

[Pman]

Should I just give you the most they could possibly buy? because there is no need to sustain an army unless you think you are threatened, especially if it's not your own people. 

That would suffice 

Kingdom/Chiefdom/Tribe/Nomadic Peoples Name (If you choose Tribes/Chiefdom/Nomadic Peoples we will not list them and you have to find the name yourselves as there is too many to list): The High Chiefdom of the Franks


Capital/Area (If you are not a kingdom/chiefdom, please put your general area): The Capital is Arvidii.


Two other major cities: The other two major towns or Goltii and Maridii, though they are much smaller than Arvidii. 


Population Size (Estimate if you need): ~453,000 people, though they are loosely joined together. The actual amount of people directly under the Chief Angilbart's control is somewhere in the range of forty thousand.


Government Type: Chiefdom


Specialities/Trades (Basically, what your nation is famous for, or does mainly. For instance Egypt is mainly agrarian, and Carthage/Phoenicia are mainly Ship builders or merchants):  The Franks are largely agrarian but have recently begun extracting iron and making spears and small swords, causing raiding the largely fertile Gallians to be more profitable.


Main Exports: Agrarian Crops, Lumber, Iron


Army Size (Please list Cavalry, Infantry, and Specialty weapons such as Ballistas or War elephants. We know this is going to be mainly estimation, please estimate fairly for the time and your kingdom, this is meant to semi-realistic):  Four thousand raiders armed with spears, some with iron or bronze. Four-hundred twenty six riders of Horse, who are armed with spear ten cubits long and a longknife for infantry combat. The Franks have only one General, the Chief Angilbart, who is well skilled in hit and run tactics and raiding, but lacks the skill and knowledge for pitched battles as current. Oft times the infantrymen will have a small hat made from the hide of a cow as well as leather boots for the ragged terrain. They are oft armored with a cloth tunic padded and if they are richer, they have breastplates of bronze. The riders are the best armored of all the Frankish military.

Accepted very nicely done

 

[player2]

Oh, nevermind. I will adjust the military with my newfound knowledge.

 

[Leusis]

Kingdom/Chiefdom/Tribe/Nomadic Peoples Name: Odrysian Kingdom


Capital/Area: Odessos


Two other major cities: Istros, Serdica


Population Size: 605,000


Government Type: Tribal coalition lead by a king


Specialities/Trades: Thracians like always have a very strong warrior culture, though there is also a strong focus on agriculture and iron-working.


Main Exports: Lumber, Iron, Agrarian Crops.


Army Size: 20,000 light infantry carrying two javelins, an oval wooden shield, and a sica. 7,000 heavy infantry wearing a mix of bronze or iron armor, wielding large two handed swords. 10,000 skirmishers wearing little to no armor, armed with a crescent wicker shield, sica, and bow. 5,000 light cavalry wearing little to no armor, using a mix of javelins, bows, and spears. 3,000 heavy cavalry wearing a mix of bronze or iron armor using, using long spears with wooden oval shields with a sica in case of melee combat. (difficult to amass entire force due to tribal leaders not supporting a cause, though when invaded the full force can almost always be raised in defense of their lands)

 

[Am Vya]

Kingdom/Chiefdom/Tribe/Nomadic Peoples Name: The Macedonian State of Egypt


Capital/Area (If you are not a kingdom/chiefdom, please put your general area):


Memphis


Two other major cities: 


Alexandria, Thebes


Population Size (Estimate if you need):


2,500,000 


Government Type:


Monarchy


Specialities/Trades: 


agrarian crops, jewelry, bronze weapons/armor, pottery, ship building


Main Exports:


Crops, jewelry, pottery, bronze military equipment, ships, seafood


Army Size (Please list Cavalry, Infantry, and Specialty weapons such as Ballistas or War elephants. We know this is going to be mainly estimation, please estimate fairly for the time and your kingdom, this is meant to semi-realistic): 


20,000  light infantry equipped with bronze spears, 2 javelins, 1 Khopesh, a large wooden shield covered in animal hide, cloth padded armor, and a bronze/cloth helm. 10,000 heavy infantry with 1iron spear, 1 Khopesh, 2 javelins, a wooden round shield coated in bronze, leather scaled armor, and bronze helmet. 5,000 war chariots (drawn by two horses, one driver with a shield and a archer) 5,000 heavy cavalry equipped with scaled armor (bronze or leather), a long iron spear/lance, a khopesh, a round shield (wood covered with animal hide), and a bronze helm. 10,000 Light archers equipped with a bow (recurve or longbow), a war hatchet (bronze), a cloth helm, little to no armor. 250 ballistas, 150 catapults, 250 War elephants.


Navy:


10,000 sailors 


125 Triremes


200 Egyptian warships (i don't know the name but they are small-ish)

 

[AdmiralKerkov]

Kingdom/Chiefdom/Tribe/Nomadic Peoples Name: The Confederated Scythian Tribes


Capital/Area: Ukraine/Romania/Caucasus/Iran/Turkmenistan/Pakistan/India


Two other major cities: N/A


Population Size: 400,000~


Government Type: Confederated Nomadic Tribes; Life-time Chief


Specialities/Trades: Cattle-herding, hunting, metalwork, horse archery. 


Main Exports: Meat, Mercenaries, Gold


Army Size: No active army



Reserve Army: 


 250,000~;


75,000 Spear Cavalry


175,000 Horse Archers


(All army sizes/Population numbers are subject to change)

 

[Lordvader59]

Kingdom/Chiefdom/Tribe/Nomadic Peoples Name: Odrysian Kingdom


Capital/Area: Odessos


Two other major cities: Istros, Serdica


Population Size: 605,000


Government Type: Tribal coalition lead by a king


Specialities/Trades: Thracians like always have a very strong warrior culture, though there is also a strong focus on agriculture and iron-working.


Main Exports: Lumber, Iron, Agrarian Crops.


Army Size: 20,000 light infantry carrying two javelins, an oval wooden shield, and a sica. 7,000 heavy infantry wearing a mix of bronze or iron armor, wielding large two handed swords. 10,000 skirmishers wearing little to no armor, armed with a crescent wicker shield, sica, and bow. 5,000 light cavalry wearing little to no armor, using a mix of javelins, bows, and spears. 3,000 heavy cavalry wearing a mix of bronze or iron armor using, using long spears with wooden oval shields with a sica in case of melee combat. (difficult to amass entire force due to tribal leaders not supporting a cause, though when invaded the full force can almost always be raised in defense of their lands)

Good choice.

 

[Pman]

Kingdom/Chiefdom/Tribe/Nomadic Peoples Name: Odrysian Kingdom


Capital/Area: Odessos


Two other major cities: Istros, Serdica


Population Size: 605,000


Government Type: Tribal coalition lead by a king


Specialities/Trades: Thracians like always have a very strong warrior culture, though there is also a strong focus on agriculture and iron-working.


Main Exports: Lumber, Iron, Agrarian Crops.


Army Size: 20,000 light infantry carrying two javelins, an oval wooden shield, and a sica. 7,000 heavy infantry wearing a mix of bronze or iron armor, wielding large two handed swords. 10,000 skirmishers wearing little to no armor, armed with a crescent wicker shield, sica, and bow. 5,000 light cavalry wearing little to no armor, using a mix of javelins, bows, and spears. 3,000 heavy cavalry wearing a mix of bronze or iron armor using, using long spears with wooden oval shields with a sica in case of melee combat. (difficult to amass entire force due to tribal leaders not supporting a cause, though when invaded the full force can almost always be raised in defense of their lands)

Well it looks good but you are currently a vassel of Macedonia. If you want to revolt against them that is fine but you will have to deal with the Macedonian player if one ever shows up.

Kingdom/Chiefdom/Tribe/Nomadic Peoples Name: The Macedonian State of Egypt


Capital/Area (If you are not a kingdom/chiefdom, please put your general area):


Memphis


Two other major cities: 


Alexandria, Thebes


Population Size (Estimate if you need):


6,500,000 


Government Type:


Monarchy


Specialities/Trades: 


agrarian crops, jewelry, bronze weapons/armor, pottery, ship building


Main Exports:


Crops, jewelry, pottery, bronze military equipment, ships, seafood


Army Size (Please list Cavalry, Infantry, and Specialty weapons such as Ballistas or War elephants. We know this is going to be mainly estimation, please estimate fairly for the time and your kingdom, this is meant to semi-realistic): 


30,000 light infantry equipped with bronze spears, 2 javelins, 1 Khopesh, a large wooden shield covered in animal hide, cloth padded armor, and a bronze/cloth helm. 10,000 heavy infantry with 1iron spear, 1 Khopesh, 2 javelins, a wooden round shield coated in bronze, leather scaled armor, and bronze helmet. 5,000 war chariots (drawn by two horses, one driver with a shield and a archer) 5,000 heavy cavalry equipped with scaled armor (bronze or leather), a long iron spear/lance, a khopesh, a round shield (wood covered with animal hide), and a bronze helm. 10,000 Light archers equipped with a bow (recurve or longbow), a war hatchet (bronze), a cloth helm, little to no armor. 500 ballistas, 250 catapaults, 500 War elephants.

Lower the war machines to half the current amount and you're good

Kingdom/Chiefdom/Tribe/Nomadic Peoples Name: The Confederated Scythian Tribes


Capital/Area: Ukraine/Romania/Caucasus/Iran/Turkmenistan/Pakistan/India


Two other major cities: N/A


Population Size: 400,000~


Government Type: Confederated Nomadic Tribes; Life-time Chief


Specialities/Trades: Cattle-herding, hunting, metalwork, horse archery. 


Main Exports: Meat, Mercenaries, Gold


Army Size: No active army



Reserve Army: 


 250,000~;


75,000 Spear Cavalry


175,000 Horse Archers


(All army sizes/Population numbers are subject to change)

perfect, you're clear to post

 

[Dominus Regum]

Nation: Chiefdom of Iberia


Area: The Orange on the map


Capitol: Akra Leuke

Two other major cities:  Baria, Abdera, a few others


Population Size: 700,000


Government Type: Chiefdom


Specialties/Trades: major mining, Minor shipmaking, cattle/sheep


Main Exports: Iron, copper, gold


Army Size:


70,000 Infantry

20,000 Calvalry

 

[Dominus Regum]

I will either start as them or the Maya

 

[AdmiralKerkov]

I will either start as them or the Maya

We will not be including the Americas in this RP, they are plainly too far and unconnected from all the players playing Africa/Europe/Asia kingdoms. 

 

[Leusis]

Im feeling like some people are overestimating the populations of their regions during this time frame. For example, Carthage was one of the largest Mediterranean empires of this specific time and I believe it was given a reasonable population. Egypt for example was similar in total land mass at this time with what was likely a slightly larger population due to the fact the Nile gave them lots of surplus in food, however, nothing close to the 6.5 million stated above considering the whole of China at this time is only aroung 15 million and its easily five times the size of Egypt with a much higher population density.


Another example would be Rome, which at this current time didn't even hold half of the Italian Peninsula, and even with the growing city of Rome I would only expect maybe 500,000 total citizens.


Scythians seem accurate considering they pretty much owned the entire Eurasian steppe at this time, but of course are limited in population by the fact they're a nomad culture.


Iberia is large in land mass, but lacks population centers because they were mostly warring tribes with little national identity to share between themselves. Id likely put them somewhere around the 700,000 mark.


Franks seem fine.


And I'm sorry if I'm coming off as an asshole, I don't mean to be, it's just that I'm a college history major and I focus on military history so this time period up to the medieval age are of a lot of interest to me and I feel like if you guys are going for historical accuracy you aren't looking at the right sources. If this isn't meant to be entirely historically accurate, again I apologize.

 

[Dominus Regum]

@Leusis

It's alright, i'll change it to add back to it.

 

[Dominus Regum]

We will not be including the Americas in this RP, they are plainly too far and unconnected from all the players playing Africa/Europe/Asia kingdoms. 

Alright. Will it be a possibility, eventually, for discovery and colonization later on?

 

[AdmiralKerkov]

Im feeling like some people are overestimating the populations of their regions during this time frame. For example, Carthage was one of the largest Mediterranean empires of this specific time and I believe it was given a reasonable population. Egypt for example was similar in total land mass at this time with what was likely a slightly larger population due to the fact the Nile gave them lots of surplus in food, however, nothing close to the 6.5 million stated above considering the whole of China at this time is only aroung 15 million and its easily five times the size of Egypt with a much higher population density.


Another example would be Rome, which at this current time didn't even hold half of the Italian Peninsula, and even with the growing city of Rome I would only expect maybe 500,000 total citizens.


Scythians seem accurate considering they pretty much owned the entire Eurasian steppe at this time, but of course are limited in population by the fact they're a nomad culture.


Iberia is large in land mass, but lacks population centers because they were mostly warring tribes with little national identity to share between themselves. Id likely put them somewhere around the 700,000 mark.


Franks seem fine.


And I'm sorry if I'm coming off as an asshole, I don't mean to be, it's just that I'm a college history major and I focus on military history so this time period up to the medieval age are of a lot of interest to me and I feel like if you guys are going for historical accuracy you aren't looking at the right sources. If this isn't meant to be entirely historically accurate, again I apologize.

  I understand your frustration, especially with this site, unrealism in historical roleplay is rampant and bugs the hell out of me. But with civilizations with no population estimates within 50 years, it is VERY hard to estimate. You make some good points here, and we will try to enforce them, but then again, it is a game. We cannot be entirely too strict or else we lose the fun. But we will try and make people tone it down a little. Thank you for your comment. 

Alright. Will it be a possibility, eventually, for discovery and colonization later on?

No, this game has a turn per week. Each turn encompasses a year maybe 6 months in game time, we will never reach the technological point for cross Atlantic or Cross Pacific travel. 

 

[Dominus Regum]

  I understand your frustration, especially with this site, unrealism in historical roleplay is rampant and bugs the hell out of me. But with civilizations with no population estimates within 50 years, it is VERY hard to estimate. You make some good points here, and we will try to enforce them, but then again, it is a game. We cannot be entirely too strict or else we lose the fun. But we will try and make people tone it down a little. Thank you for your comment. 


No, this game has a turn per week. Each turn encompasses a year maybe 6 months in game time, we will never reach the technological point for cross Atlantic or Cross Pacific travel. 

Interesting... anyway, Time for Iberia to Unite!

 

[player2]

No, this game has a turn per week. Each turn encompasses a year maybe 6 months in game time, we will never reach the technological point for cross Atlantic or Cross Pacific travel. 





 

If we played for 320 years straight we could

 

[Windhover118]

Kingdom/Chiefdom: Mauryan Empire


Capital: Pataliputra


Two other major cities: Taxila, Bodh Gaya


Population Size: 12.7 million


Government Type: Absolute Monarchy


Specialties/Trades: Primary an Agrarian society, the Mauryan Empire was famous for having an extensive trade network. 


Main Exports: Silk, textiles, rice, wheat, millets and various other crops


Army Size: 


600,000 Infantry


30,000 Cavalry


9000 War Elephants

 

[AdmiralKerkov]

If we played for 320 years straight we could

IRL, yes, but it'd be our very distant descendants, if in game time, than no, because the first contact between the Americas and Europe was by vikings 8 centuries after 0 AD. It's disappointing, but I think Europe/Asia/Africa will be enough to fight over.