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Fallout based Nationbuilding

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Just now, RIPSaidCone said:

A very patriotic, American nationalist faction. (IE - no commies) Somewhat like the NCR but more compact and built up. So the NCR is immensely large territorial wise but isn't entirely built up, my faction would be smaller in territory but more built up in that area.

Uhh, texas is bigger that california

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Just now, TheIrradiatedWaffle said:

Uhh, texas is bigger that california

I said Texas based, it wouldn't be the entirety of Texas xD

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Just now, RIPSaidCone said:

I said Texas based, it wouldn't be the entirety of Texas xD

Great! Now how much of texas were you hoping to control? Texas post war has a population of 2.7 million.

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How do you get these numbers? 

And what's the population of the Commonwealth?

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7 minutes ago, TheIrradiatedWaffle said:

Great! Now how much of texas were you hoping to control? Texas post war has a population of 2.7 million.

Uh, you sure about that? Because the NCR should be the largest faction around.

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Just now, Pat said:

Uh, you sure about that? Because the NCR should be the largest faction around.

The NCR is, with 3.4 million people, but a lotta problems, like food shortages, water shortages, corruption, the sort. New Vegas was the thing that could save them, but they dont even have that anymore.

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11 minutes ago, TheIrradiatedWaffle said:

Great! Now how much of texas were you hoping to control? Texas post war has a population of 2.7 million.

Dallas and a large chunk of Western Texas. Dallas being their capital/home.

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Well, with the addition of the Commonwealth the brotherhood can certainly rival the NCR I think. 

Also, have the New Vegas folks already talked about what happened to the Nevada brotherhood bunker?

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Just now, TheIrradiatedWaffle said:

The NCR is, with 3.4 million people, but a lotta problems, like food shortages, water shortages, corruption, the sort. New Vegas was the thing that could save them, but they dont even have that anymore.

Waffle. That's dumb. It was said in Fallout 2 that they had 0.7 million people, and that was implied to be inaccurate. What's the starting year anyway?

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4 minutes ago, Fgkun said:

How do you get these numbers? 

And what's the population of the Commonwealth?

10% of the areas population, minus numbers from wars that killed people.

 

Mass. Has 800,000 and the cw has 64,000 people

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1 minute ago, Fgkun said:

Well, with the addition of the Commonwealth the brotherhood can certainly rival the NCR I think. 

Also, have the New Vegas folks already talked about what happened to the Nevada brotherhood bunker?

I have it in my lore that is has been incorporated into the FEZLV. 

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Just now, Pat said:

I have it in my lore that is has been incorporated into the FEZLV. 

Assuming you destroyed it then? Doubt the Brotherhood would willingly incorporate themselves into what they deem as a primitive community.

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1 minute ago, Pat said:

Waffle. That's dumb. It was said in Fallout 2 that they had 0.7 million people, and that was implied to be inaccurate. What's the starting year anyway?

Well, I took it to heart, but I get wat you mean, . 6% then. 2300

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Just now, RIPSaidCone said:

Assuming you destroyed it then? Doubt the Brotherhood would willingly incorporate themselves into what they deem as a primitive community.

There was a violent incident, but the Courier did do a lot for them and gave them a waiting period of five years before full intergration. 

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Oh, also: Should we include the courier and the vault dwellers in this RP?

 

And I just realised that I never asked whether you refer to the Yes-Man ending or the House ending with independent NV.

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2 minutes ago, TheIrradiatedWaffle said:

Well, I took it to heart, but I get wat you mean, . 6% then. 2300

Waffle, there is no way in hell the NCR is that large. Boston too. I personally have 15,289 people in the FEZLV, which is mostly just Carson County, Nevada. 

1 minute ago, Fgkun said:

Oh, also: Should we include the courier and the vault dwellers in this RP?

 

And I just realised that I never asked whether you refer to the Yes-Man ending or the House ending with independent NV.

Yes Man.

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Just now, Pat said:

Waffle, there is no way in hell the NCR is that large. Boston too. I personally have 15,289 people in the FEZLV, which is mostly just Carson County, Nevada. 

Don't see why you have to be so forward/aggressive with it. This doesn't have to be 100% accurate, adjustments can be made for the RP's sake.

 

Waffle, do what you want its your RP xD

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Keep in mind I factored in Supermutants, tribals, former Legion slaves/citizens, and to a lesser degree NCR citizens immigrating to the FEZLZ.

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3 minutes ago, Pat said:

Waffle, there is no way in hell the NCR is that large. Boston too. I personally have 15,289 people in the FEZLV, which is mostly just Carson County, Nevada. 

Yes Man.

Well, it is what it is, deal. 

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2 minutes ago, TheIrradiatedWaffle said:

Well, it is what it is, deal. 

57 years have passed since Fallout 2.

 

0.7 Million

 

3.4 Million

 

You're saying their population has almost quintupled since then. And the world's a wasteland, and they're not really that advanced as far as Fallout factions go.

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12 minutes ago, Pat said:
2 minutes ago, Pat said:

57 years have passed since Fallout 2.

 

0.7 Million

 

3.4 Million

 

You're saying their population has almost quintupled since then. And the world's a wasteland, and they're not really that advanced as far as Fallout factions go.

 

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Bro, I dont like the population of the NCR as is in fallout lore. Its action as if populations dont grow in 200 years. Medival Europe grew faster than the US post apoc. World. Sure they didnt have all of the dangers, but seeing as the only really irradiated place in Californua is the Glow, I cabt wrap my head around the idea that their population didnt keep growing. Maybe its cause of food, Idk, but this rp doesnt have tp be 100% accurate, so Im changing wat I dont like

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1 minute ago, TheIrradiatedWaffle said:

Bro, I dont like the population of the NCR as is in fallout lore. Its action as if populations dont grow in 200 years. Medival Europe grew faster than the US post apoc. World. Sure they didnt have all of the dangers, but seeing as the only really irradiated place in Californua is the Glow, I cabt wrap my head around the idea that their population didnt keep growing. Maybe its cause of food, Idk, but this rp doesnt have tp be 100% accurate, so Im changing wat I dont like

Plant diversity is low. There were also the Resource Wars. In Fallout New Vegas itself Chief H. of the Rangers remarks that lakes were rare and many were dried up back West.

 

The NCR wouldn't be able to sustain many more people.  

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Like if somebody says that in twenty years the NCR won't be able to sustain itself, how come it can feed roughly five times that in thirteen? 

1 minute ago, Boethiah said:

When is this RP? The NCR's pop was most likely about 1 mil in 2281.

2300. I sorta doubt the NCR population was 700,000 during Fallout 2, since the source of that information is unquestionably biased.

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