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Cosmo

Does Not Know Kung-fu
So in my personal experience “religion” is just code for “bigoted beliefs that you aren’t allowed to call out.”

So I can see the mentality being “I don’t want to start unnecessary drama in the OOC”.

As religion is one of those things that people believe very strongly about IRL and it is not outside of the realm of possibility for whatever religion the character has to lead to fighting.

Either it’s disrespectful to a real religion, pushing an agenda people don’t agree with into the world, or people use it as a jumping off point to preach at people OOC.

So yeah I can see the GM being like “Nope I am not going to be refereeing petty infighting all day.”
A character that believes in whatever, pick your fictional or real beliefs, having friction with another character who doesn't believe in that... that is called conflict and is what stories are about. Shying away from that doesn't make an RP better.

If you have an RPer that is starting drama in the OOC, and you are the GM, step up and act like a GM.
 

nerdy tangents

art by Sparrowlicious
A character that believes in whatever, pick your fictional or real beliefs, having friction with another character who doesn't believe in that... that is called conflict and is what stories are about. Shying away from that doesn't make an RP better.

If you have an RPer that is starting drama in the OOC, and you are the GM, step up and act like a GM.
I mean that’s what they’re doing though?

They are being the GM by saying “I will not invite unnecessary drama into my roleplay. No religion allowed.”

Like you can’t have it both ways. You can’t say the GM has the right to not allow things into their roleplay they feel will be disruptive AND then get salty when they do that about something you want.

Religion is too hot button an issue IRL to allow into roleplays. Because I can promise you most people don’t see it as some fictional belief that affects fictional characters.

It is a real thing that affects real people in deeply personal ways.
 

Lucyfer

I Could Tip You Like A Vintage Wine
That's...that's kind of why it is a peeve to NOT have it in RPs. It's an aspect of reality, that has been around for almost (if not all) of human history. I'm gonna agree with Cosmo here, even as an atheist, I find it weird when religion isn't in a world at all.

It's one of my peeves as well when it comes to RPing, as well, though not as strong a peeve. It's still hella weird not having religion represented in some fashion, given its prominence in reality, the good and the bad of it.

Also, it could just be me, but I thought this was a thread for airing pet peeves, regardless of if people agree with these peeves? Deeper discussion probably deserves its own thread.

Edit: Also Cosmo was differentiating between IC drama and OOC Drama. A GM should step up and monitor OOC drama...but IC drama is kind of needed to advance stories.
 

Cosmo

Does Not Know Kung-fu
I mean that’s what they’re doing though?

They are being the GM by saying “I will not invite unnecessary drama into my roleplay. No religion allowed.”

Like you can’t have it both ways. You can’t say the GM has the right to not allow things into their roleplay they feel will be disruptive AND then get salty when they do that about something you want.

Religion is too hot button an issue IRL to allow into roleplays. Because I can promise you most people don’t see it as some fictional belief that affects fictional characters.

It is a real thing that affects real people in deeply personal ways.

Cept it isn't. Expecting your RPers to have some level of maturity and not act as personal belief mouthpieces for their characters isn't unique to religion just as it isn't for any other hot topic item. When the RPers fail in doing that and start acting as mouthpieces that is when you need to act like a GM and PM them to let them know they need to stop, if they keep doing it or escalate to OOC drama, you deal with it by giving them the boot.

If 'Well, it could cause OOC drama, so lets just not have it,' was the go-to method for this, RPs would be pretty boring since there wouldn't be anything in them because those things tend to be the very thing RPs need to have conflict and advancement. "Well, I thought about having LGBTQ+ roles but it could cause OOC drama, so just not going to do it,' isn't exactly an okay thing to do.

Keep in mind, in another thread, I supported the idea of GMs not wanting to deal with, say, balancing player powers and may restricted them to only one or two, however that is not the same, to me, as outright removing something because it 'could be too problematic if people act childish and I can't be bothered to handle it if it does'.

If a GM goes 'Well, I just can't be bothered,' yea, I am going to be peeved by that [Almost like that is the point of the thread]. But whatever, people do people, if you remember my post, what really irritates me is the silly reasons some people come up with to try and justify it, I'd rather them just admit, 'Eh, I didn't think about it,' or 'You know.. I just don't wanna deal with it.' '

EDIT: To be clear, when acting as mouthpieces, if it becomes apparent and disruptive, that is when you wanna step in. If its small, harmless and not worth making a fuss over, just roll your eyes at it like everyone else does.
 
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nerdy tangents

art by Sparrowlicious
That's...that's kind of why it is a peeve to NOT have it in RPs. It's an aspect of reality, that has been around for almost (if not all) of human history. I'm gonna agree with Cosmo here, even as an atheist, I find it weird when religion isn't in a world at all.

It's one of my peeves as well when it comes to RPing, as well, though not as strong a peeve. It's still hella weird not having religion represented in some fashion, given its prominence in reality, the good and the bad of it.

Also, it could just be me, but I thought this was a thread for airing pet peeves, regardless of if people agree with these peeves? Deeper discussion probably deserves its own thread.

Edit: Also Cosmo was differentiating between IC drama and OOC Drama. A GM should step up and monitor OOC drama...but IC drama is kind of needed to advance stories.
To be clear MY peeve with religion is because it causes drama in the OOC when people don’t like what is being said in the IC.

So in groups I can see the GM erring on the side of, “I’m not going to police peoples individual religions so no one is putting a religious agenda in the roleplay.”

For 1x1 I can see there being a little more leeway as you can judge one individuals comfort level with religious themes.

But I was talking more specifically for groups where you will get people kicking off drama. And with an issue that is as controversial and hot button as religion I would be banning half the players if I just kicked out the people who raised a stink.

So then it’s a calculus, do I want to put the comfort of one person (Lucyfer) over the harmony of the entire roleplay?
 

nerdy tangents

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Cosmo Cosmo
I’ll grant you controversy was the wrong word.

I think a better way to look at it is a GM wanting consistency of world building.

Like you can’t allow one person to alter the setting without allowing everyone to do it. And that will cause issues in the OOC, regardless of the IC interactions.

I do agree that GMs should be able to enforce their rules uniformly and honestly.
 

Cosmo

Does Not Know Kung-fu
I’ll grant you controversy was the wrong word.

I think a better way to look at it is a GM wanting consistency of world building.

Like you can’t allow one person to alter the setting without allowing everyone to do it. And that will cause issues in the OOC, regardless of the IC interactions.

I do agree that GMs should be able to enforce their rules uniformly and honestly.
If you are world building and your world has humans in it but no religion of any kind... anywhere... probably wanna take another look at your world building because it doesn't actually have humans.

The 'all or nothing' policy has never worked. 'If one person gets to do it, everyone gets to' or 'If X is fine, shouldn't Y be too?' has never been a thing. I have no idea why people act like it has been or should suddenly start now.

If a GM has a player that wants to do X and wants to talk with them to find a way to get it to work in their world? They should be excited about that. I know I always am. Sometimes their idea wont work and you have to tell them so. Sometimes they have to heavily alter or change it to get it to fit. But if a GM goes 'its my way or the highway' out the gate? That isn't a GM. Its someone on a power trip who isn't interested in creating a world and story with other players.
 

Murdergurl

will turn your insides into your outsides
TFW your GMs give up on an RP before the actual players participating do. It never fails to astound me when this happens during otherwise successful RPs.
This has happened to me a few times, actually. The group is actually going strong and then it's the GMs turn to push the plot, and then... *crickets* Fuckin' AWOL. Suks because everyone had put in a lot of effort on awesome posts, and the RP almost always invariably dies because no one really knows how t pick it up (and most of us weren't there with the inclination to take up GM duties in the first place).
 

Murdergurl

will turn your insides into your outsides
Oh, and to make an entry to the list:
I hate it when I've been wanting a certain kind of RP and can't find it, and then I eventually lose interest in that unfulfilled craving. Current case: Been searching for a good space opera but now I'm just like... meh. Futuristic RPs are rare here. And when I do find em', they aren't really what I'm looking for. So now I'm gonna work on sprucing up a Google Doc profile for an old Goblin character of mine and then look for group RPs I might play her in.
 

Melpomene

Destroyer of Worlds|Art by NataliaDrepina|
Supporter
That reminded me. When you want to rp something but no one is interested, so you give up, and then you suddenly see searches pop up when you no longer want to rp it.
Right??

Y'all be going out and doing my shit without me. Where were all of you when I had the idea 😤
 

Murdergurl

will turn your insides into your outsides
That reminded me. When you want to rp something but no one is interested, so you give up, and then you suddenly see searches pop up when you no longer want to rp it.
Funny you should mention it. A while back we were struggling to get a 40k roleplay going. It ultimately fell on its face. But while we were trying to get it going, it took a bit to gather interested parties. NOW, I am suddenly seeing Warhammer 40,000 enthusiasts crop up here and there on the site. I can tell because of their avis, sigs, and/or titles. I'm over the 40k thing now. But it woulda been nice to have seen these ppl show their faces several weeks ago.
 
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Murdergurl

will turn your insides into your outsides
that's why I just don't have any quality to begin with. I can post fast and stay perfectly consistent. :bigbrain:
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srsly tho... sometimes I consider whittling down my usual multi-para form to something... less? That way, I can reply more consistently when I'm not necessarilly in the mood. But then, I'll feel like I'm half-assing everything. i dunno. This quandary wont rightly manifest until I actuslly get an RP going again. So for the moment, it's a moot cnsideration.
 

Onmyoji

HanGuang-Jun
Moderator
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This is exactly why I stopped doing novella rp. I'm just physically unable to dish out so much content every single time.
I still do multi-para but it's overall shorter, so it doesn't stress me out as much. In some cases it can come down to one paragraph lol

But I still hate it that I'm always so tired that it makes writing long texts harder.
 

Sara Sidereal

Magical Space Princess
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srsly tho... sometimes I consider whittling down my usual multi-para form to something... less? That way, I can reply more consistently when I'm not necessarilly in the mood. But then, I'll feel like I'm half-assing everything. i dunno. This quandary wont rightly manifest until I actuslly get an RP going again. So for the moment, it's a moot cnsideration.
This is exactly why I stopped doing novella rp. I'm just physically unable to dish out so much content every single time.
I still do multi-para but it's overall shorter, so it doesn't stress me out as much. In some cases it can come down to one paragraph lol

But I still hate it that I'm always so tired that it makes writing long texts harder.
The more you remove from your post, the better it will be.

You have been enlightened.
 

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