Xylona
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Awesome! Sign me up for Varric then, I've got some ideas that'll still leave the character tied into the lore.
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Ok coolAwesome! Sign me up for Varric then, I've got some ideas that'll still leave the character tied into the lore.
Yo Archon! Alright then on the joining.SARUUUUUUUSAURUS!
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Okay, I'm going to try my hand at balancing Cole with iron Bull, The Silent Z let me know after the fact? It's a difficult concept to make work!
It depends on what you have in mind. If your CS makes sense and can tie in without the Templar past then sure.So question The Silent Z do I have to keep part of the Templar past when making my Cullen character or am I allowed to change it since I feel it isn't quite tied with the main story of Inquisition?
Pends on age here- If a character is 19 or in that range then No. if they are older such as closer to 30 or above then I'll approve two. Just for FYI to others if your character is early twenties and you'd like two- Then you'll have to provide a pretty good reason for it or else it won't be allowed more then 1.Saru, are we going two specialisations? That seems like what you're doing but I want to make sure.
Also if that is happening, is it okay if Carados is also Templar/Champion? Because that's basically exactly what Carados would be, but Blackwall got there first. If it's not okay I'll just go Templar/Guardian.
There are a lot of Templars going around. And a lot of Warriors.
Yo Archon! Alright then on the joining.
A tough combo to pull off- But I'm looking forward to seeing how this works.
It depends on what you have in mind. If your CS makes sense and can tie in without the Templar past then sure.
Pends on age here- If a character is 19 or in that range then No. if they are older such as closer to 30 or above then I'll approve two. Just for FYI to others if your character is early twenties and you'd like two- Then you'll have to provide a pretty good reason for it or else it won't be allowed more then 1.
Yeah sure.
The CS has 2 warriors and 1 rogue so far. We'll see Archdemon has for his OC and what Archon does. Same with Han too. It's too early to tell what the race, class and specializations will turn out like imo.
A human noble and champion? Hmm.. gonna need more info as to how the tie in comes as Cullen dates back further then Inquisition and knew various characters along the way and became the military adviser for the inquisition. So while his Templar role played largely for him, it will not be required here but still a length of more detail will be needed before I could say.The reason I asked was because I was trying to go more for a noble type character. Kinda like a playboy you know? Obviously he has to have a military background if he is to be the military advisor so I'll think something up for that. Besides since I'm going with a noble character I thought the specialization Champion would work better. Is that okay?
Mage-Hater! Haha. But that generally is how the series seems to go. Mages are less in number then other classes. Just as long as we don't end up with all the same ocs we should be fine.I'm afraid it's a warrior from me, but more rogues and warriors is certainly better than too many mages!
The Circles are necessary! Mages are dangerous!A human noble and champion? Hmm.. gonna need more info as to how the tie in comes as Cullen dates back further then Inquisition and knew various characters along the way and became the military adviser for the inquisition. So while his Templar role played largely for him, it will not be required here but still a length of more detail will be needed before I could say.
Mage-Hater! Haha. But that generally is how the series seems to go. Mages are less in number then other classes. Just as long as we don't end up with all the same ocs we should be fine.
Blood mages, yes! But circles aren't necessarily necessary! Some are even more harmful then good.The Circles are necessary! Mages are dangerous!
P.S I finished my CS!
What's harmful is Templar Injustice, my good Sir. The Circles should be a place of safety and learning for mages. But take them away, and what happens when Suzan the Spellcaster gets possessed whilst buying bread from town?Blood mages, yes! But circles aren't necessarily necessary! Some are even more harmful then good.
But cool, I'll check later on the CS and see what the count is for classes and etc.
"Should be" is the key phrase. Bounding them to lives stricter then a nuns life and forced by young age is harsh on its own, add to it with constant injustice and Templar power being over the top politically capable of hiding such injustices further take away from the circle should be. In truth the nature of how circles operate and how mages taken to them- Breeds hate for many cases which also spreads to minds growing poisoned by temptation, thus blood mages come to happen despite wisdom and knowing better existing. Also they tend to add to the demons awareness of such troubles and tempting them with easier know how of how to successfully tempt them over to the "dark side" so to speak.What's harmful is Templar Injustice, my good Sir. The Circles should be a place of safety and learning for mages. But take them away, and what happens when Suzan the Spellcaster gets possessed whilst buying bread from town?
I don't think a wild abomination murdering villagers is a good alternate to the Circles!
Cool! Cole is unavailable actually. Sera and Vivienne are open though-OH... I think I would like to take the role of Sera/Cole - if it's still open that is? ; v ;
What specifics would my OC have to have in order to fill this role? Just so I don't overlook it~
On the contrary, you're taking the worst of the worst and pushing it forward as the norm in regards to Circles. The Mage Rebellion occurred because Fiona led a majority vote of a tiny majority of mages who wished to leave, and this is in the aftermath of Anders' attack on the chantry spurring the Mage/Templar rebellion in Kirkwall to act as a catalyst. Nobody denies Meredith and her Templars were monsters of the most extreme methods. But this is not the rule, but the exception. Most circles are not like this."Should be" is the key phrase. Bounding them to lives stricter then a nuns life and forced by young age is harsh on its own, add to it with constant injustice and Templar power being over the top politically capable of hiding such injustices further take away from the circle should be. In truth the nature of how circles operate and how mages taken to them- Breeds hate for many cases which also spreads to minds growing poisoned by temptation, thus blood mages come to happen despite wisdom and knowing better existing. Also they tend to add to the demons awareness of such troubles and tempting them with easier know how of how to successfully tempt them over to the "dark side" so to speak.
Circles in short tend to be cruel and inhumane from the start. While successful mages without circle training and forced life within towers have been known to exist. Demons tend to have more successful attempts with circle mages then known apostates. But that's mere speculation until more is revealed in the series. However your claim is highly speculative and without facts. Plenty of reported cases of non circle mages have lived without demonic possession. Meanwhile many circle mages have become possessed and even resulted in the cost of lives and structural damage within towers.
A wild abomination conjured from speculation and used merely for slandering mages who live and want to live without supervision, and odds are Templar abuse pending the case and tower.
Circles tend to withhold knowledge and holdback mages out of fear of them growing too strong. Adding to more control for them and less control for mages over their own lives. This is a dangerous method and does not help prevent demonic possession.
Haha, just as you have with apostates. However your using Vivienne and Meredith as the only sources for circle of magi practices and use the mage rebellion alone as your points. Vivienne also stated each mages experience is there own, not every mages experience is nice and pleasant, the voting and rebellion in general was a clusterfuck ignited by anders idiocy. Doesn't mean circles are necessary only proves bad apples are in both groups, difference is mages are already put through rites of tranquility once deemed too weak, while truths about the right is hidden. Now if mages who are villains in their own right exist within circles they are killed. Free mages that are asses are killed. Demonically possessed mages are killed. What about the protected Templars? How come seekers don't have stations in circle towers to keep order amongst them? What about bigot Templars? Circles harbor the same possibilities as any free mage and their village (should they actually live amongst the villagers) yet don't offer basic rights and equality in EVERY circle. Kirkwall and Viviennes circles are only two out of several across thedas. Good circles exist and blemishes exist on their tainted record, just like everywhere. General public and their fears of magic, bigotries can be attributed to circle laws in plenty of cases where family and outside contact is limited to letters, just mail.On the contrary, you're taking the worst of the worst and pushing it forward as the norm in regards to Circles. The Mage Rebellion occurred because Fiona led a majority vote of a tiny majority of mages who wished to leave, and this is in the aftermath of Anders' attack on the chantry spurring the Mage/Templar rebellion in Kirkwall to act as a catalyst. Nobody denies Meredith and her Templars were monsters of the most extreme methods. But this is not the rule, but the exception. Most circles are not like this.
Take Vivienne, for example. She stated herself that the Circle of Ostwick which she hails from is a hub of learning and joy. Templars and Mages commute together freely, the Mages understand the Templars are there for protection and the Templars understand the mages are just people too. This is the *true* Templar order. Not the corruption of Lord Seeker Lucius, and definitely not the corruption of Knight-Commander Meredith. Both of which are responsible for Templar atrocity in Dragon Age 2 and Inquisition.
The mages who you claim are so fiercely oppressed only rebelled with a tiny majority after the atrocities of Kirkwall were revealed. What about all the mages who voted against freedom? Now forced into a war they want no part in, pitted against their allies and friends in their circle, the Templars. Do their voices not matter? A lot of the problems can arise due to Templar mistreatment, such as trying to keep Templars and Mages apart, but not even nearly close to the level you claim. You're correct, abominations and possessions are more prominent in Circle Mages. This is because it's tied to a mages emotions and willpower. A mistreated mage is of course going to be more susceptible than a free mage.
But, pray tell, if 10 in 100 mages become abominations within the circle, they are killed before they can turn. It's awful, it's cruel. Yes.
Now, what if 1 in 100 free-mages becomes an abomination living a normal life in a village? Whose going to stop this big wreathing mass of flesh from laying waste to possibly hundreds of innocent people?
You make mages free, now what stops the people--who've lived with tales of the danger of magic for generations--from taking up rocks and pitchforks and hunting down any free-mage in their town? Put yourself in the position of a common Fereldan farmer. Would you sleep easy at night knowing that a mage could turn at any time--no matter how unlikely--and kill your children as they slept?
I also disagree about your theory on blood magic, desperation may lead to temptation. But so does greed, a greedy free-mage who pursues Blood Magic can't be stopped. A greedy mage within the circle can.
Ok,cool. I'll return later to check CS's.The Silent Z
Posted my incomplete character, don' have time to finish him at the moment but the basic bio is there. I'l have it done tonight.
Ok coolOkay! I think I can do that - I did have an idea for a mage.
You know I'm not 100% on that, but I'm pretty sure Dottie is doing a mage class in the Sera role. Am I right dotie ?So Vivienne I believe is open and free for you to use for your OC.I tried to read through - am I right in that only the Sera spot is open now? Or is the Vivienne one open also? Because that's certainly a character type I'd love to create.
You know I'm not 100% on that, but I'm pretty sure Dottie is doing a mage class in the Sera role. Am I right dotie ?So Vivienne I believe is open and free for you to use for your OC.
Oh your welcome! Viv is a character I loved in inquisition. Annoying at first and at times, but pretty solid overall. But no probs Since I'm pretty sure Dotie wanted Sera's role and I left that one as a complete freedom with since she doesn't add anything necessary to the storyline. it does leave Viv open barring a misunderstanding on my part with DotieI'd rather Vivienne anyway, but honestly I'm happy to do either! Thanks for the clarification.